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From: Ruben Safir
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Strange News this week
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:31:42PM -0400, swd wrote:
> Ruben says, "And remember ... they are LOADED with GNU engineers which they
> have hired over the years in they're attempt to defeat Linux."
> Even more importantly, the software, electrical, computer and other
> engineers and scientists working at Microsoft are always schooled in and on
> UNIX. Never Windows. I remember working at BSQUARE (WindowsCE) in Redmond
> and hearing nothing but smug and cynical complaints from developers saying
> that all and any Windows OSes are eye candy and crappy and weak and stupid.
> (This is why WindowsNT command line executables copied UNIX commands. UNIX
> developers!) I am sure WindowsLinux would be a great, but unspoken,
> accomplishment for many Windows developers. Ha!
It can be quite a pile on from within the organization which has been
pented up in the ranks.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lestw-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com [mailto:lestw-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com] On
> Behalf Of Ruben Safir
> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:50 PM
> To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com; ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com
> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Strange News this week
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 09:12:51PM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote:
> > Ruben Safir wrote:
> > > July 20, 2009 (Computerworld) Microsoft Corp.'s move to release
> > > three of its drivers to Linux, however technically modest it may
> > > be, could put pressure on other closed-source vendors to follow
> > > suit.
> > >
> > Let's hope.
> > > According to Greg Kroah-Hartman, a longtime Linux developer for
> > > Novell Inc. and the head of the Linux Driver Project, Linux today
> > > "supports hundreds of thousands of drivers."
> > [snip]
> > > "This shows that their customers have been asking to run Linux,"
> > > he said.
> > >
> > Bingo. It was a business decision, and knowing how they feel about both
> > FOSS and Linux, not one they made too lightly. I guess we're past the
> > "they ignore you" phase now. We already did the "they laugh at you".
> > Does this mean it's "they fight you" time?
> Close, but not quite. Your now going to read one of the Ruben seminal
> writings, so pay close attention. They are in the "Then you Lose Position".
> Microsoft is have big troubles in its business plans as we move forward and
> they are getting worried. The news this weeks is that Apple carved out
> a 10% chunck in the market sales this week. Furthermore, Google is openly
> competing with a GNU based OS, and Netcraft has reported that MS based Web
> Servers is stalled. Corperate profits are down, Large PC sales is down and
> embeded space is not a proven profit source.
> Meanwhile, MS is being facebooked and twittered to death and has failed to
> adapt as well as say... HP.
> They got problems and they are now eyeing GNU systems as an asset that
> yet been properly leveraged. This is the first step to the coming Microsoft
> Linux, an enevitablility which I predicted prior to our Egov-OS action in
> Washington. And remember ... they are LOADED with GNU engineers which they
> have hired over the years in they're attempt to defeat Linux.
> > > It also shows, in a posting to Slashdot by Sam Ramji, Microsoft's
> > > head of open-source strategy, that the company is not trying to
> > > undermine Linux or bolster its 2006 claim that Linux violated its
> > > patents.
> > >
> > Well, it hardly does anything of the sort, as I'm sure Mr. Ramji is well
> > aware. Drivers are always welcome, but they're program code, not
> > legally binding pledges of anything other than they won't sue over the
> > GPLed code in the drivers themselves.
> > - Ron