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DATE | 2009-07-29 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
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From lestw-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Wed Jul 29 19:34:17 2009 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n6TNYFGV017204 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:34:17 -0400 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id n6TNYFxb017203 for hangout-outgoings; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:34:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lestw-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n6TNYBBS017200 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:34:14 -0400 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC62D1F092 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:34:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by panix2.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 20529) id B160033CC6; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:34:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:34:08 -0400 From: Ruben Safir To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services Message-ID: <20090729233408.GB19749-at-panix.com> References: <334145.44819.qm-at-web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A6FE3B6.6010309-at-vnetworx.net> <20090729081346.GA15698-at-panix.com> <4A70470B.5010909-at-vnetworx.net> <20090729134837.GA11054-at-panix.com> <4A70637B.5030309-at-vnetworx.net> <20090729173235.GA24980-at-panix.com> <4A70BF34.1000403-at-vnetworx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A70BF34.1000403-at-vnetworx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: lestw-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 05:29:24PM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote: > Ruben Safir wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:58:03AM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote: > > > >> If it's about price, we're > >> talking your cable company or Verizon. Take your pick between them. > >> No need to explain to me how Verizon is evil, I know all about it, but > >> those are your choices. > >> > > Which is bizzarre because outside of the political issues, who would use > > DLS today at the prices things are at. > > > > > Verizon's getting very aggressive about FiOS, their FTTP offering, which > aside from the particularly crappy router they want you to use with it, > is much faster and available under similar terms as Verizon DSL. > They've also been in the news for ripping your copper out at their box > to ensure you can never return to DSL. > > - Ron
Yeah - That is OLD news. People unhappy with it wanting to go back to copper were stonewalled. But the Cable companies are equally bad, and in some ways worse since they have a history of doing QOS and are copyright content owners.
Ruben
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