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Notice- Brooke is a woman. Woman can be as worthless as mothers as some men are worthless as fathers. In fact, it is the actions of mothers that forces men to be worthless fathe= rs to begin with- something that she does not mention at all.
--- On Tue, 7/21/09, Ruben Safir wrote:
From: Ruben Safir Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Worthless Dads To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 9:35 PM
Fathers & Families on CBS/HuffPost: =E2Do Men Become Better or Worse Fathers After Divorce?=E2 July 20th, 2009 by Glenn Sacks, MA, Executive Director
Author Jill Brooke helped craft a CBS Early Show segment and wrote an article on the issue of fathering after divorce. Two Fathers & Families supporters and I are quoted in the article. I helped Brooke with some research and briefly appeared in the CBS segment.
Brooke=E2s article is Do Men Become Better or Worse Fathers After Divorce? (Huffington Post, 7/17/09).
Brooke=E2s thesis is, as professor Don Gordon explains, =E2When a father is away from the stress of a failed marriage, he can be more relaxed and more reflective and as a result enjoy being more fully involved with his children.=E2
She quotes CNBC anchor Dennis Kneale, who says divorce has made him =E2vastly closer =E2 to his 9-year-old daughter Jing-Jing:
=A0 =A0 In many families, mom is the center of everything and the =A0 =A0 husband is the supporting player. But with divorce, I have had =A0 =A0 more one on one time with her in ways I never did before.
This can certainly be true, and some father-child relationships do improve after divorce. As a general rule, however, divorce is often what drives fathers and kids apart.
Brooke writes:
=A0 =A0 Technology has also helped prevent or reduce what is called =A0 =A0 parental alienation where in the past the residential parent =A0 =A0 may - consciously or unconsciously - block contact either out =A0 =A0 of her resentment towards the father or because she has remarried =A0 =A0 and is protecting the stepfather relationship.
=A0 =A0 A study by J. Annette Vanini and Edward Nichols found that 77 =A0 =A0 percent of noncustodial fathers faced some form of visitation =A0 =A0 interference.
=A0 =A0 But now fathers can give their kids pre-paid cell phones to =A0 =A0 insure contact. Divorce contracts are also often written to =A0 =A0 permit contact through email accounts.
=A0 =A0 Ted Rubin, a Huntington Long Island divorced dad to two girls, =A0 =A0 admits to using Facebook to keep in contact with his kids. =A0 =A0 =E2Sometimes when we speak on the phone I can tell if Mom is =A0 =A0 standing there and then later my daughter will contact me on =A0 =A0 Facebook,=E2 he said. =E2A lot of Dads complain that moms could =A0 =A0 stand in the way of communication but now it=E2s almost impossible =A0 =A0 because kids are so tech savvy.=E2
=A0 =A0 In fact, Rubin, who has a contentious divorce with his ex-wife, =A0 =A0 says that email helps divorced parents diminish =E2the nastiness =A0 =A0 is our dialogues=E2 which the kids would overhear on the phone. =A0 =A0 Now he can email what time he=E2s picking up the kids and deliverin= g =A0 =A0 them without any verbal warfare=E2=A6
=A0 =A0 [R]esearch shows that the kids do like it when both parents =A0 =A0 are present.
=A0 =A0 =E2They have fewer behavior and emotional problems, higher =A0 =A0 self-esteem and better school performance than children in sole =A0 =A0 custody arrangements,=E2 said Glenn Sacks, the National Executive =A0 =A0 Director of Fathers & Families. =E2When researchers have examined =A0 =A0 children of divorce, and studied and queried adult children of =A0 =A0 divorce, they=E2ve found that most prefer joint custody and shared =A0 =A0 parenting.=E2
=A0 =A0 For example, in one Arizona State University study of college =A0 =A0 students who experienced their parents=E2 divorces while they =A0 =A0 were children, over two-thirds believe that living equal times =A0 =A0 with each parent is the best arrangement. A Harvard University =A0 =A0 study also confirmed that children in joint custody settings =A0 =A0 fared much better than kids living in sole custody households.
=A0 =A0 While many men acknowledge progress, some still complain that =A0 =A0 the system treats fathers as second-class citizens when asking =A0 =A0 for more time with their children.
=A0 =A0 As Gary Nicholson, the president of the American Association =A0 =A0 of Marital Attorneys, explains, part of the problem is that =A0 =A0 various state laws tie child support payments to the amount of =A0 =A0 time a father is with their child. Payments can be adjusted if =A0 =A0 the father spends as much as 100 nights with his child so many =A0 =A0 mothers resist giving 50-50 splits and are angered by the =A0 =A0 request.
=A0 =A0 Said Nicholson, =E2Are there folks who look at this economically =A0 =A0 and think if I have equal time I won=E2t have to pay as much =A0 =A0 child support? Yes. But the majority of dads want to be involved =A0 =A0 in their kid=E2s lives. They feel they should be equal partners.=E2
Brook begins the piece by writing:
=A0 =A0 If divorce is in the future of duplicitous two-timers Gov. Mark =A0 =A0 Sanford to reality TV=E2s Jon Gosselin, these men will have to =A0 =A0 navigate co-parenting. However, a growing trend shows that many =A0 =A0 men become better parents post-divorce, to the surprise of =A0 =A0 ex-wives who find it difficult to grasp that a man who wasn=E2t =A0 =A0 a good husband can indeed be a good father.
One, comparing the average divorced dad to these two is like comparing the average married woman to the conniving, spoiled, manipulative women of Desperate Housewives=E2it=E2s hardly an accurate generalization. (I would also add that Gosselin=E2s wife Kate supposedly was cheating on him with her bodyguard=E2some back up that story while others say Gosselin began these rumors. I=E2d delve into it in greater detail but my interest in the subject wouldn=E2t warrant it.)
Two, the line =E2ex-wives who find it difficult to grasp that a man who wasn=E2t a good husband can indeed be a good father=E2 and some of the lines in the CBS segment imply that when women decide to divorce their husbands, that means that they weren=E2t good husbands. While sometimes that is the case, it is at least as common for women to divorce their husbands because they=E2re too damn critical of them. In my Chicago Tribune column Men Blamed for Marriage Decline but Women=E2s Relationship Wounds Often Self-Inflicted (1/21/07) I wrote:
=A0 =A0 To what, then, do we attribute women=E2s discontent with marriage =A0 =A0 and relationships, and the fact that they initiate the vast =A0 =A0 majority of divorces? A new Woman=E2s Day magazine poll found =A0 =A0 that 56% of married women would not or might not marry their =A0 =A0 husbands if they could choose again=E2why?
=A0 =A0 Nobody would dispute that, in selecting a mate, women are more =A0 =A0 discerning than men. This is an evolutionary necessity=E2a woman =A0 =A0 must carefully evaluate who is likely to remain loyal to her =A0 =A0 and protect and provide for her and her children. If a man and =A0 =A0 a woman go on a blind date and don=E2t hit it off, the man will =A0 =A0 shrug and say =E2it went OK.=E2 The woman will give five reasons =A0 =A0 why he=E2s not right for her.
=A0 =A0 A woman=E2s discerning, critical nature doesn=E2t disappear on her =A0 =A0 wedding day. Most marital problems and marriage counseling =A0 =A0 sessions revolve around why the wife is unhappy with her husband, =A0 =A0 even though they could just as easily be about why the husband =A0 =A0 is unhappy with the wife. In this common pre-divorce scenario =A0 =A0 there are only two possibilities-either she=E2s a great wife and =A0 =A0 he=E2s a lousy husband, or she=E2s far more critical of him than =A0 =A0 he is of her. Usually it=E2s the latter=E2=A6
=A0 =A0 Yes, there are some men who make poor mates, but not nearly =A0 =A0 enough to account for the divorce epidemic and the decline of =A0 =A0 marriage. While it=E2s easy and popular to blame men, many of =A0 =A0 the wounds women bear from failed relationships and loneliness =A0 =A0 are self-inflicted.
A biblical saying is also applicable:
=A0 =A0 Why do you observe the splinter in your brother=E2s eye and never =A0 =A0 notice the great log in your own? (Luke 6:41)
Brooke writes:
=A0 =A0 Take the example of Peter Giles. When Peter Giles=E2 three =A0 =A0 daughters were toddlers, work consumed him at the expense of =A0 =A0 family life. The New York businessman would justify the absences =A0 =A0 as doing the right thing for his family since he was providing =A0 =A0 the financial womb while his wife was taking care of their =A0 =A0 other needs.
=A0 =A0 What finally made him a better father? Getting a divorce.
=A0 =A0 =E2The divorce was such a shock and forced me to take stock of =A0 =A0 who I was and what success should look like,=E2 said Giles, whose =A0 =A0 ex-wife Nancy Claus sought a divorce in 2001. =E2I came to realize =A0 =A0 that I had been providing for my children but needed to be more =A0 =A0 to them. =E2
=A0 =A0 Like the majority of divorcing men today, Giles sought joint =A0 =A0 legal custody, which courts are more willing to grant since a =A0 =A0 federal study shows that men paid child support 90 percent of =A0 =A0 the time in comparison to less than 45 percent when the mother =A0 =A0 had sole custody.
=A0 =A0 When his daughters visited, Giles morphed into a multi-tasker =A0 =A0 taking on chores previously done by his wife including cooking, =A0 =A0 buying cosmetics and remembering to buy eggs and bacon at the =A0 =A0 market.
=A0 =A0 =E2I wish he would have been as involved and helpful when we were =A0 =A0 married,=E2 said Claus. =E2But he has definitely become a much =A0 =A0 better Dad after our divorce.=E2
This seems rather unfair and condescending=E2Giles was sacrificing for his family when he worked long hours, and his ability to earn a good income was doubtless a substantial part of why his ex-wife decided to marry him to begin with. Like many men, his divorce came to him as a surprise. In don=E2t know what else happened between them, but it seems his ex-wife may have decided to break up the family because she was unhappy with decisions that she herself played a large role in crafting.
His ex says, =E2I wish he would have been as involved and helpful when we were married.=E2 This may be true, but I would add that I=E2m sure she found his good income very =E2helpful=E2 too.
The article doesn=E2t say what the Giles=E2 custody arrangement is now, and the article refers to his daughters =E2visiting.=E2 If they do have real joint custody=E2not the piece of paper which says =E2joint custody=E2 but allows dad only a few days a month with his children, but real joint custody, meaning substantially equal parenting time=E2then Giles=E2 ex-wife is to be commended.
There=E2s a lot of pressure in society to deny the harm caused by divorce and fatherlessness. The reason is that most divorces are initiated by women, and most of these are not due to serious infractions like adultery and abuse. Some divorced fathers have brought their problems on themselves, but many others were perfectly good husband and fathers. Brooke doesn=E2t say this and probably doesn=E2t believe it, but, de-stigmatizing divorce and depicting divorce as OK (or better) for kids is often a way to greenlight women to make these damaging choices.
Fathers & Families supporters David Gestl and Eric Ryerson are also quoted in the story. To read Brooke=E2s full piece, click here. To comment on it, click here and scroll down.=A0 Bookmark This Post: =0A=0A=0A --0-413932840-1248274357=:64973 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"> Notice- Brooke is a woman.
Woman can be as worthless as mothers as some men are worthless as fath= ers.
In fact, it is the actions of mothers that forces men to be worthless = fathers to begin with- something that she does not mention at all.
-= -- On Tue, 7/21/09, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wr= ote:
16,16,255) 2px solid"> From: Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> S= ubject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Worthless Dads To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Dat= e: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 9:35 PM
Fathers & Families on CBS/HuffPost: =E2Do Men Be= come Better or Worse Fathers After Divorce?=E2 July 20th, 2009 by Glenn = Sacks, MA, Executive Director
Author Jill Brooke helped craft a C= BS Early Show segment and wrote an article on the issue of fathering aft= er divorce. Two Fathers & Families supporters and I are quoted in th= e article. I helped Brooke with some research and briefly appeared in th= e CBS segment.
Brooke=E2s article is Do Men Become Better or Worse F= athers After Divorce? (Huffington Post, 7/17/09).
Brooke=E2s thes= is is, as professor Don Gordon explains, =E2When a father is away from t= he stress of a failed marriage, he can be more relaxed and more reflecti= ve and as a result enjoy being more fully involved with his children.=E2=
She quotes CNBC anchor Dennis Kneale, who says divorce has made = him =E2vastly closer =E2 to his 9-year-old daughter Jing-Jing:
 = ; In many families, mom is the center of everything and the = husband is the supporting player. But with divorce, I have had &= nbsp; more one on one time with her in ways I never did before. <= BR>This can certainly be true, and some father-child relationships do im= prove after divorce. As a general rule, however, divorce is often what d= rives fathers and kids apart.
Brooke writes:
Te= chnology has also helped prevent or reduce what is called = parental alienation where in the past the residential parent &nbs= p; may - consciously or unconsciously - block contact either out = of her resentment towards the father or because she has remarried > and is protecting the stepfather relationship.
= A study by J. Annette Vanini and Edward Nichols found that 77 &n= bsp; percent of noncustodial fathers faced some form of visitation interference.
But now fat= hers can give their kids pre-paid cell phones to insure co= ntact. Divorce contracts are also often written to permit = contact through email accounts.
Ted Rubin, a Huntingto= n Long Island divorced dad to two girls, admits to using F= acebook to keep in contact with his kids. =E2Sometimes whe= n we speak on the phone I can tell if Mom is standing ther= e and then later my daughter will contact me on Facebook,= =E2 he said. =E2A lot of Dads complain that moms could sta= nd in the way of communication but now it=E2s almost impossible &= nbsp; because kids are so tech savvy.=E2
In fact, Rubi= n, who has a contentious divorce with his ex-wife, says th= at email helps divorced parents diminish =E2the nastiness is our dialogues=E2 which the kids would overhear on the phone. = Now he can email what time he=E2s picking up the kids and delivering=
them without any verbal warfare=E2=A6
 = ; [R]esearch shows that the kids do like it when both parents &nb= sp; are present.
=E2They have fewer behavior and emoti= onal problems, higher self-esteem and better school perfor= mance than children in sole custody arrangements,=E2 said = Glenn Sacks, the National Executive Director of Fathers &a= mp; Families. =E2When researchers have examined children o= f divorce, and studied and queried adult children of divor= ce, they=E2ve found that most prefer joint custody and shared &nb= sp; parenting.=E2
For example, in one Arizona State Un= iversity study of college students who experienced their parents=E2 divorces while they were children, over two-th= irds believe that living equal times with each parent is t= he best arrangement. A Harvard University study also confi= rmed that children in joint custody settings fared much be= tter than kids living in sole custody households.
Whil= e many men acknowledge progress, some still complain that = the system treats fathers as second-class citizens when asking &n= bsp; for more time with their children.
As Gary Nichol= son, the president of the American Association of Marital = Attorneys, explains, part of the problem is that various s= tate laws tie child support payments to the amount of time= a father is with their child. Payments can be adjusted if = the father spends as much as 100 nights with his child so many mothers resist giving 50-50 splits and are angered b= y the request.
Said Nicholson, =E2Are= there folks who look at this economically and think if I = have equal time I won=E2t have to pay as much child suppor= t? Yes. But the majority of dads want to be involved in th= eir kid=E2s lives. They feel they should be equal partners.=E2
Brook= begins the piece by writing:
If divorce is in the fut= ure of duplicitous two-timers Gov. Mark Sanford to reality= TV=E2s Jon Gosselin, these men will have to navigate co-p= arenting. However, a growing trend shows that many men bec= ome better parents post-divorce, to the surprise of ex-wiv= es who find it difficult to grasp that a man who wasn=E2t = a good husband can indeed be a good father.
One, comparing the average divorced dad to these two is like comparing the average married= woman to the conniving, spoiled, manipulative women of Desperate Housew= ives=E2it=E2s hardly an accurate generalization. (I would also add that = Gosselin=E2s wife Kate supposedly was cheating on him with her bodyguard= =E2some back up that story while others say Gosselin began these rumors.= I=E2d delve into it in greater detail but my interest in the subject wo= uldn=E2t warrant it.)
Two, the line =E2ex-wives who find it difficul= t to grasp that a man who wasn=E2t a good husband can indeed be a good f= ather=E2 and some of the lines in the CBS segment imply that when women = decide to divorce their husbands, that means that they weren=E2t good hu= sbands. While sometimes that is the case, it is at least as common for w= omen to divorce their husbands because they=E2re too damn critical of th= em. In my Chicago Tribune column Men Blamed for Marriage Decline but Women=E2s Relationship Wounds Often Self-Inflicted (1/21/07) I wrot= e:
To what, then, do we attribute women=E2s discontent= with marriage and relationships, and the fact that they i= nitiate the vast majority of divorces? A new Woman=E2s Day= magazine poll found that 56% of married women would not o= r might not marry their husbands if they could choose agai= n=E2why?
Nobody would dispute that, in selecting a mat= e, women are more discerning than men. This is an evolutio= nary necessity=E2a woman must carefully evaluate who is li= kely to remain loyal to her and protect and provide for he= r and her children. If a man and a woman go on a blind dat= e and don=E2t hit it off, the man will shrug and say =E2it= went OK.=E2 The woman will give five reasons why he=E2s n= ot right for her.
A woman=E2s discerning, critical natur= e doesn=E2t disappear on her wedding day. Most marital pro= blems and marriage counseling sessions revolve around why = the wife is unhappy with her husband, even though they cou= ld just as easily be about why the husband is unhappy with= the wife. In this common pre-divorce scenario there are o= nly two possibilities-either she=E2s a great wife and he= =E2s a lousy husband, or she=E2s far more critical of him than &n= bsp; he is of her. Usually it=E2s the latter=E2=A6
Yes= , there are some men who make poor mates, but not nearly e= nough to account for the divorce epidemic and the decline of &nbs= p; marriage. While it=E2s easy and popular to blame men, many of = the wounds women bear from failed relationships and loneliness &n= bsp; are self-inflicted.
A biblical saying is also applicable: > Why do you observe the splinter in your brother=E2s eye = and never notice the great log in your own? (Luke 6:41) > Brooke writes:
Take the example of Peter Giles. W= hen Peter Giles=E2 three daughters were toddlers, work con= sumed him at the expense of family life. The New York busi= nessman would justify the absences as doing the right thin= g for his family since he was providing the financial womb= while his wife was taking care of their other needs. <= BR> What finally made him a better father? Getting a divorce.<= BR> =E2The divorce was such a shock and forced me to take = stock of who I was and what success should look like,=E2 s= aid Giles, whose ex-wife Nancy Claus sought a divorce in 2001. =E2I came to realize that I had been providing f= or my children but needed to be more to them. =E2
&= nbsp; Like the majority of divorcing men today, Giles sought jointR> legal custody, which courts are more willing to grant since= a federal study shows that men paid child support 90 perc= ent of the time in comparison to less than 45 percent when= the mother had sole custody.
When hi= s daughters visited, Giles morphed into a multi-tasker tak= ing on chores previously done by his wife including cooking, &nbs= p; buying cosmetics and remembering to buy eggs and bacon at the = market.
=E2I wish he would have been as involve= d and helpful when we were married,=E2 said Claus. =E2But = he has definitely become a much better Dad after our divorce.=E2
This seems rather unfair and condescending=E2Giles was = sacrificing for his family when he worked long hours, and his ability to= earn a good income was doubtless a substantial part of why his ex-wife<= BR>decided to marry him to begin with. Like many men, his divorce came t= o him as a surprise. In don=E2t know what else happened between them, bu= t it seems his ex-wife may have decided to break up the family because s= he was unhappy with decisions that she herself played a large role in cr= afting.
His ex says, =E2I wish he would have been as involved and he= lpful when we were married.=E2 This may be true, but I would add that I= =E2m sure she found his good income very =E2helpful=E2 too.
The a= rticle doesn=E2t say what the Giles=E2 custody arrangement is now, and t= he article refers to his daughters =E2visiting.=E2 If they do have real = joint custody=E2not the piece of paper which says =E2joint custody=E2 bu= t allows dad only a few days a month with his children, but real joint custody, = meaning substantially equal parenting time=E2then Giles=E2 ex-wife is to= be commended.
There=E2s a lot of pressure in society to deny the ha= rm caused by divorce and fatherlessness. The reason is that most divorce= s are initiated by women, and most of these are not due to serious in= fractions like adultery and abuse. Some divorced fathers have brought th= eir problems on themselves, but many others were perfectly good husband = and fathers. Brooke doesn=E2t say this and probably doesn=E2t believe it= , but, de-stigmatizing divorce and depicting divorce as OK (or better) f= or kids is often a way to greenlight women to make these damaging choice= s.
Fathers & Families supporters David Gestl and Eric Ryerson ar= e also quoted in the story. To read Brooke=E2s full piece, click here. T= o comment on it, click here and scroll down. Bookmark This Post:
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