|FROM ||Ruben Safir
|SUBJECT ||Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:32:35 -0400
From: Ruben Safir
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:58:03AM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote:
> Ruben Safir wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 08:56:43AM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote:
> >>> No, Covad is the supplier of the service that Speakeasy runs over, which
> >>> is one of the main factors in the cost. You're not going to save much
> >>> money going to Speakeasy from Covad since that's essentially like going
> >>> from Covad to Covad. Didn't you used to be on Speakeasy back in the
> >>> CrackMonkey days?
> > Yes but Speakeasy was substantially less expensve than covad was.
> I had Speakeasy at home for over 5 years. I'm not trying to talk you
> out of them, but seriously, if this is about money, they're really not
> an option.
> > I just can't do it all. I've rech a pont in my life where I an no longer
> > be the superman everyone has come to expect of me all the time.
> I recently told various people in NYLUG that my days as the sugar daddy
> were over, and by that I meant I wasn't buying a new $15 power strip to
> replace one that got stolen from the library. I'm borrowing money
> monthly to keep the lights on. The economy has devastated my customer
> base. I feel your pain.
> > Additionally, Covad has been sold and they aren't even the same company
> > anymore and just the way the company communicates is not same any more.
> > They've started to charge a 4 dollar fee for late payments, not in
> > itself a big deal, but it does piss me off.
> The same unfortunately is true of Speakeasy. Sold (to Best Buy of all
> people) and they're not the same company they used to be. I'm trying to
> stick to the money issue here since that's what you asked about, and
> that's what you're emphasizing here now. If it's about price, we're
> talking your cable company or Verizon. Take your pick between them.
> No need to explain to me how Verizon is evil, I know all about it, but
> those are your choices.
> - Ron
Which is bizzarre because outside of the political issues, who would use
DLS today at the prices things are at.