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DATE | 2009-07-29 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
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From lestw-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Wed Jul 29 13:32:44 2009 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n6THWfwV012766 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:32:43 -0400 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id n6THWfDw012765 for hangout-outgoings; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:32:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lestw-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n6THWcqH012762 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:32:41 -0400 Received: from panix3.panix.com (panix3.panix.com [166.84.1.3]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBA838E42 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by panix3.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 20529) id B72948FDE3; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:32:35 -0400 From: Ruben Safir To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services Message-ID: <20090729173235.GA24980-at-panix.com> References: <334145.44819.qm-at-web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A6FE3B6.6010309-at-vnetworx.net> <20090729081346.GA15698-at-panix.com> <4A70470B.5010909-at-vnetworx.net> <20090729134837.GA11054-at-panix.com> <4A70637B.5030309-at-vnetworx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A70637B.5030309-at-vnetworx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: lestw-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:58:03AM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote: > Ruben Safir wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 08:56:43AM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote: > > > >> > >>> No, Covad is the supplier of the service that Speakeasy runs over, which > >>> is one of the main factors in the cost. You're not going to save much > >>> money going to Speakeasy from Covad since that's essentially like going > >>> from Covad to Covad. Didn't you used to be on Speakeasy back in the > >>> CrackMonkey days? > >>> > > > > Yes but Speakeasy was substantially less expensve than covad was. > I had Speakeasy at home for over 5 years. I'm not trying to talk you > out of them, but seriously, if this is about money, they're really not > an option. > > I just can't do it all. I've rech a pont in my life where I an no longer > > be the superman everyone has come to expect of me all the time. > > > I recently told various people in NYLUG that my days as the sugar daddy > were over, and by that I meant I wasn't buying a new $15 power strip to > replace one that got stolen from the library. I'm borrowing money > monthly to keep the lights on. The economy has devastated my customer > base. I feel your pain. > > > Additionally, Covad has been sold and they aren't even the same company > > anymore and just the way the company communicates is not same any more. > > They've started to charge a 4 dollar fee for late payments, not in > > itself a big deal, but it does piss me off. > > > The same unfortunately is true of Speakeasy. Sold (to Best Buy of all > people) and they're not the same company they used to be. I'm trying to > stick to the money issue here since that's what you asked about, and > that's what you're emphasizing here now. If it's about price, we're > talking your cable company or Verizon. Take your pick between them. > No need to explain to me how Verizon is evil, I know all about it, but > those are your choices. > > - Ron
Which is bizzarre because outside of the political issues, who would use DLS today at the prices things are at.
Ruben
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