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| DATE | 2003-02-09 |
| FROM | Maxwell Spangler
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Sun Feb 9 20:21:21 2003 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h1A1LLXH013371 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:21:21 -0500 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1A1LL2C013370 for hangout-desteny; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:21:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h1A1LLXH013364 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:21:21 -0500 Received: (from ruben-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1A1LLg8013363 for hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:21:21 -0500 Received: from tyan.doghouse.com (dsl092-148-080.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.148.80]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h1A1KnXH013342; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:20:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (maxwell-at-localhost) by tyan.doghouse.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h1A1Lu029172; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:21:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: tyan.doghouse.com: maxwell owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:21:56 -0500 (EST) From: Maxwell Spangler X-X-Sender: To: billy ball cc: Bruce Perens , , , , , , , Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Maxwell Spangler List: New Yorkers Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribename-at-domian.com to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Keywords: X-UID: 7643 Status: RO Content-Length: 1658 Lines: 39
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, billy ball wrote:
> Microsoft should be shunned at any professional computing forum for its > actions and behavior...
When someone says something that you don't like you can either censor them to stop them from saying it or have increased discussion about what was said so that the truth about it can come through.
I don't see how pretending that Microsoft doesn't exist on a selective basis is going to further anything.
There will always be some clueless people that go to tradeshows and fall for the marketing and propaganda of various vendors. Microsoft clearly knows this and is attempting to get everyone with it.
But their presence is also a tremendously appropriate context for people that don't know any better to ask "What do you think of the Microsoft products in booth 13?" At that point you've got the exact venue and audience to address Microsoft's evils.
The audience is listening, they're interested and you have to be optimistic and respectful that they'll be able to figure out who is telling the truth.
If you really want to do what is right, then *compete* on software products, customer support, pro-consumer licensing and beat Microsoft on all the things that are supposed to count.
-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maxwell Spangler Program Writer Greenbelt, Maryland, U.S.A. Washington D.C. Metropolitan Area
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