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| DATE | 2003-02-10 |
| FROM | Dave Williams
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] Out of the Bag
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Feb 10 08:26:43 2003 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h1ADQhXH026542 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:26:43 -0500 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1ADQh0a026541 for hangout-desteny; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:26:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from mail1.informationwave.net (dipole.informationwave.net [199.74.235.3]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h1ADQgXH026534 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:26:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.informationwave.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03774FA6A; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:29:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pehdialup00-113.STM1.dialassurance.com (pehdialup00-113.STM1.dialassurance.com [140.186.90.113]) by mail1.informationwave.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311A14FA69; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:29:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: [hangout] Out of the Bag From: Dave Williams To: David Sugar Cc: bruce-at-perens.com, rms-at-gnu.org, jays-at-panix.com, hangout-at-nylxs.com, derek-at-gnue.org, ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com In-Reply-To: <200302100759.15260.dyfet-at-ostel.com> References: <200302061635.20758.dyfet-at-ostel.com> <200302071900.08059.dyfet-at-ostel.com> <200302100759.15260.dyfet-at-ostel.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1044883756.30478.12.camel-at-connie> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Date: 10 Feb 2003 08:29:16 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS new-20020517 Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Dave Williams List: New Yorkers Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribename-at-domian.com to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Keywords: X-UID: 7739 Status: RO Content-Length: 1840 Lines: 44
It would appear that NewsForge has decide to run with the story, including direct quotes from yourself, Richard, Bruce and Ruben, lifted directly from the mailing lists.
http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/02/09/2138247
Included is a link to Tony's organization, of which Bruce is a participating member.
Perhaps Tony can change the title of the conference to:
"Various Source Availability Methods in Electronic Government"
or eGovOS/SS/CS -- Open, Shared and Closed, in other words.
Otherwise Mr. Stanco, Esq. and the Cyber Security Policy & Research organization could contact Microsoft and return their check, refund their application fee, reprint the brochures, offer an apology, and invite them to attend as regular members of the public. In fact they could say "You are more than welcome to ask difficult and probing questions during the Q&A sessions after a forum. You don't even have to represent yourselves as MS employees -- you can confront us as members of the public!"
Sure, it would be fun to see a headline in the Post that says "Open Source representatives successfully defend their position against Microsoft", but if the headline were missing the last two words it would still sound good.
Those who profess knowledge of the secret inner workings of Federal politics may be smarter than we know. Imagine if they actually want a Fair Use protest! Mr. Stanco could be sitting at his desk, fingers tented, and in his best Montgomery Burns voice say, "Yes, we'll make the Microsoft people look like fools on the inside and the extremists look silly on the outside! Then the government will realize we're the natural choice to deal with -- rational, agreeable people. Excellent!"
- Dave
____________________________ New Yorker Free Software Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless....
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