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|SUBJECT ||Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 15:36:02 -0500
From: Ruben Safir
To: Ruben Safir
Cc: fairuse-at-nylxs.com, hangout-at-nylxs.com, rms-at-gnu.org
Subject: Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute
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Reply-To: Ruben Safir
List: New Yorkers Linux Scene
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BTW - I'm not asking for the work on Brooklyn on Line to be brought down
It's also a gift...
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 03:33:30PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> Now, faced with mounting evidence agains the coup of NYFairUse and the
> Cybersquating of NYLXS.org, we are reaching a desperite pitch.
> NY Fair Use does not run down every problem or respond to very call by
> every organization, including the EFf and the FSF. NY Fair Use has always
> considered this playing 'whack the mole' and focuses instead on efforts to
> move the electorate towards practicle political change.
> In other words, we attack the root.
> But the claim of working against this FSF on any issue, or even your little
> band of cybersquaters is boarding on delussional claims.
> Jay - you should Punt and trade the NY Fair Use Brand for the NYLXS.org
> domain, your you will be left without both.
> In any event, we had another meeting for NYLXS today, with 3 people, and
> we;ll have another tonight, likely with about 15 people, and classes and
> so on.
> There will be an election in the coming month, as an act of real responsible
> government. Someone will be elected, and I may be happy about the groups
> choice, or not. But the process is my GIFT to the NYC Free Software Community
> and you will not be able to destroy it.
> in any event, this wasn't what you were saying at our annual dinner,
> and, but if you feel this way, BY ALL MEANS, TAKE MY WORK DOWN from
> NYFAIRUSE.org and EXCLUDE ME from this URL
> Not to mention primary creative force of Brooklyn On Line, which has been
> donate to Mr Wynkoop...
> Ruben I Saifr
> Founder of NYLXS, NY Fair Use, The Free Software Institute, the Free Software Chamber of
> Commerce, The New York City Free Software Schools Initiative, and the NYLXS Journal
> in collaberation with many many others.
> President of NY Fair Use and Lame Duck President of NYLXS
> Ruben Safir
> <> to Ruben's campaign of vilification of the most effective organized group
> in New York City working for our right to private ownership of computers
> and our right to free private, tribal, business, and public use of the Net,
> Ruben has worked against every action of NYFU since September 2002,
> including, of course, the FSF's call for action against the W3C's mistaken
> patent policy. Please do not support a man who has done grave damage to
> the movement in New York, in addition to the good he did by founding NYLXS,
> which is now near dissolution as a direct result of Ruben's ridiculous
> claims to dictatorship.>>
> Brooklyn Linux Solutions
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> New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> Fair Use -
> because it's either fair use or useless....
Brooklyn Linux Solutions
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com
http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
Fair Use -
because it's either fair use or useless....