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| DATE | 2003-02-17 |
| FROM | Ruben I Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Ok I get it
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Feb 17 11:03:01 2003 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h1HG31jb023233 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:03:01 -0500 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1HG31wS023232 for hangout-desteny; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:03:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h1HG2xjb023226; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:02:59 -0500 Received: (from ruben-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1HG2xNK023225; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:02:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:02:59 -0500 From: Ruben I Safir To: Marco Scoffier Cc: hangout Subject: Re: [hangout] Ok I get it Message-ID: <20030217110259.A23048-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030217154630.GB328-at-metm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In-Reply-To: <20030217154630.GB328-at-metm.org>; from marco4linux-at-earthlink.net on Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 10:46:31 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.2.3 Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Ruben I Safir List: New Yorkers Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribename-at-domian.com to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Evolution: 000000c7-0000 X-Keywords: X-UID: 8718 Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1699 Lines: 43
Your wrong on this matter. It's not a cabal, or a clique, and your voice is heard. But your still wrong. This is not an issue of having different points of view. It's a matter of Wynkoop trying to impose his will on the organzation from the outside.
It's a matter of a false claim made by Jay and Brett.
It's a matter of effective advocacy and obstructionist behavior. And this doesn't help at all.
Ruben
> I am sorry Ruben but I am not with you on this one. You have clearly > said that this issue is a make or break issue with you. In a democratic > organisation PEOPLE MUST BE ALLOWED TO HAVE DIFFERING VIEW PIONTS. Any > challenge to this is a challenge to democracy itself. > > I want to participate in a democracy with AS MANY MEMBERS AS POSSIBLE > doing all the wonderful things NYLXS was set up to do. I don't want to > be part of a party or clique or cabal where people are threatened > exclusion by not toeing the party line. > > --Marco > ____________________________ > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > Fair Use - > because it's either fair use or useless.... > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com
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