MESSAGE
| DATE | 2003-06-19 |
| FROM | Michael Richardson
|
| SUBJECT | RE: [hangout] root password for President
|
From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Thu Jun 19 16:22:26 2003
Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h5JKMP8m026873 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:22:25 -0400
Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h5JKMPBc026872 for hangout-desteny; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:22:25 -0400
X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f
Received: from nycsv1.abc.state.ny.us ([12.152.250.216]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h5JKMO8m026867 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:22:24 -0400
Received: by NYCSV1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:24:48 -0400
Message-ID: <069D219A1FFED611983300A0C9A02A5612AB08-at-NYCSV1>
From: Michael Richardson
To: "'Ray C.'" , "'Adam Kosmin'"
Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: RE: [hangout] root password for President
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:24:44 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: Michael Richardson
List: New Yorker GNU Linux Scene
Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribe name-at-domian.com in the body to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com
X-Evolution: 000007d4-0000
X-Keywords:
X-UID: 13210
Status: RO
Content-Length: 5005
Lines: 150
The server was paid for by NYLXS.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray C. [mailto:ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 4:18 PM
To: Michael Richardson; 'Adam Kosmin'
Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [hangout] root password for President
I agree to some, and suggest otherwise, for other points:
The password should be known to the President of the Org and to a _full
time_
SA (one person's job - as the 'go-to' guy for issues with the server's
functionality and content). We need someone to SA the server as a full time
position to keep it up to date and make changes in timely fashion. The
server
is *the* Face of NYLXS. We will be regarded as professional as only our
first
impression, our server, shows. If it's sloppy, confusing or outdated- that
is
what will be conveyed as "NYLXS, Inc." regardless what the site really says.
This will become increasingly important as our non-profit status comes
through
and prospective donors and partners investigate as to just 'who' we are.
The SA could also be responsible to SA the Kings Games location machines.
This (the SA, job description, and duties) should be fleshed out ASAP,
either
by a virtual (irc) or personal meeting.
I'd suggest having the elected Pres know the password because as with any
key,
we need a backup in case the SA is unavailable for a period of time (i.e.-
traveling) and a timely change or fix is needed. The Pres and the SA will
meet in private to set the pwd.
I believe the server was donated by Tim Wilcox so we also need to discuss
new
bandwith which will include location obviously.
Feedback appreciated...
~Ray.
On Thursday 19 June 2003 10:54 am, Michael Richardson wrote:
> What you say makes sense.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Kosmin [mailto:akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:47 AM
> To: Michael Richardson
> Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Subject: Re: [hangout] root password for President
>
>
> I get the sense that the best course of action would be to have a sit
> down with all persons involved so that a migration plan can be developed.
> NYLXS resources should exist on a stand-alone server (separte from Ruben's
> resouces). This would be the logical path to take in order to avoid the
> overlap
> that's contributed to the current situation. Once migrated, the role of
> root can be deligated to the appropriate person quite easily.
>
> Adam
>
>
> " The Chairperson of the tech committee should have that responsibility.
> "
> " -----Original Message-----
> " From: Adam Kosmin [mailto:akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com]
> " Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:25 PM
> " To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> " Subject: Re: [hangout] root password for President
> "
> "
> "
> "
> " root should only be in the hands of the person that is responsible for
> " the health and maintenance of the server itself. Without knowing who is
> " currently tasked with this responsibility, I can't say who should know
> " that password, but I see the potential for this group needlessly turning
> a " security
> " issue into a political one.
> "
> " So who is responsible to keep that server online?
> "
> " Adam
> "
> "
> " "
> " " This, if anything frustrates me. As a very active
> " " member i was fooled into thinking that Marco our
> " " President and Tech committee chairman received the
> " " root password to NYLXS's server, From Ruben our
> " " Founder, and ex-President and one of our most active
> " " member. If this just slipped his mind all will be
> " " forgiven, but if this is a selfish act to control the
> " " democracy that attracted to to the group in the first
> " " place, this is a dark day.
> " " I would like member to respon to this and hopfully
> " " resolve it today.
> " "
> " " Thank you in advance for a prompt resolve
> " "
> " " Selso K.DaSilva
> " " Board Member
> " " Education Committee Chairman
> " "
> " " __________________________________
> " " Do you Yahoo!?
> " " SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
> " " http://sbc.yahoo.com
> " " ____________________________
> " " NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> " " Fair Use -
> " " because it's either fair use or useless....
> " " NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
> " "
> "
> " --
> " I can't think of one thing I'd do for a Klondike Bar...
> "
> " ____________________________
> " NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> " Fair Use -
> " because it's either fair use or useless....
> " NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
> "
--
At times the discrepency between institutions and technology becomes an
incompatibility, and then one or the other must give way.
-Allen Wheelis
____________________________
NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
Fair Use -
because it's either fair use or useless....
NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
____________________________
NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
Fair Use -
because it's either fair use or useless....
NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
|
|
