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DATE | 2003-06-13 |
FROM | David Sugar
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SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] The false profet (editorial)
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Fri Jun 13 15:21:14 2003 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h5DJLEnT006061 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:21:14 -0400 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h5DJLEF4006060 for hangout-desteny; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:21:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from localhost.bayonne.dyndns.org (pool-141-153-166-223.mad.east.verizon.net [141.153.166.223]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h5DJLDnT006055 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:21:13 -0400 Received: from 192.168.1.104 ([192.168.1.104]) by localhost.bayonne.dyndns.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5DKIsSr002957; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:18:54 -0400 From: David Sugar To: Dave Williams Subject: Re: [hangout] The false profet (editorial) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:19:33 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200306131356.04927.dyfet-at-ostel.com> <1055531956.518.6.camel-at-connie> In-Reply-To: <1055531956.518.6.camel-at-connie> Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306131519.33054.dyfet-at-ostel.com> Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: David Sugar List: New Yorker GNU Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribe name-at-domian.com in the body to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Evolution: 000006e2-0000 X-Keywords: X-UID: 13335 Status: RO Content-Length: 3818 Lines: 85
You need to go to linuxtoday. See
http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2003061300926OSLLPB and read: "Stanco: Opinion on Brazil Making Open Source Mandatory in Governmen".
And you may get a good idea of why what he said made me so angry. For extra credit, compare his comments to those expressed by Microsoft's peruvian manager in opposing 1609 :).
On Friday 13 June 2003 03:19 pm, you wrote: > Hi David - > > This is a great essay, but I'm not sure what it is responding to. > > Did Tony Stanco express some opposition to Brasil's adoption of Free > Software? I searched through Linux Journal but I couldn't find > anything. > > - Dave > > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 13:56, David Sugar wrote: > > It was just yesterday when I first read of Brasil's decision to migrate > > a significant portion of their public sector infrastructure from the > > proprietary Microsoft Windows environment to free (and open source) > > solutions, such as GNU/Linux. I recall in the past when other nations > > had attempted this, at least one American company would choose to both > > publically and privately undermine these efforts. Sometimes, as in the > > case of Peru special law 1609, the Ambassador of my own nation would > > choose to disregard his objective role of serving the common American > > public interest, and instead promote the exclusive interests of a select > > predatory proprietary software vendor, at the expense of valid American > > commercial business interests, such as existing American Free and Open > > Source software vendors. > > > > Similarly, I expected to hear various statements from those that appose > > free and open source solutions in response to Brasil's actions. > > However, I did not expect these same false arguments to be made by one > > who claims to represent our community. Perhaps Mr. Stanco should read > > the very excellent letter from Senior Villanueva Nunez > > (http://proposicion.org.ar/doc/gob/VillanuevaNunez-080402.html), who > > explains well why it is both appropriate and necessary to use government > > procurement policy in this manner. Clearly there are people who do > > understand free software in relation to government policy; it is a shame > > the founder of the "The Center of Open Source & Government" appears not > > to. > > > > Mr. Villanueva, among many others, explains why selecting free and open > > source solutions is non discriminatory, since any vendor is free to > > offer such solutions. Certainly, sovereign governments have the right > > to choose conditions of sale for products they procure. Governments in > > many ways may already choose to influence social policy and to encourage > > or discourage specific behavior through both direct and indirect > > financial means. Governments, as public institutions, do not spend > > money on their sole behalf, but on behalf of the people they represent, > > and as such have a direct responsibility to achieve the maximum value for > > the people's money that they spend. Not all value is solely by price or > > cost. Certainly, I believe no government or society should be forced to > > accept or tolerate what it feels are immoral or unethical business terms > > or practices. As such, I think Brasil's choice of procurement law is > > both a proper and just means for Brasil's government to socially and > > responsibly spend it's people's money. > > > > David Sugar > > GNU Bayonne Maintainer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________ > > NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > > Fair Use - > > because it's either fair use or useless.... > > NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
____________________________ NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
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