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DATE | 2003-06-19 |
FROM | Marco Scoffier
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SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] TRADEMARK APPLICATION NO. 78178384 - NYLXS - N/A
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Thu Jun 19 12:44:17 2003 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h5JGiH8m024645 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:44:17 -0400 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h5JGiH6Q024644 for hangout-desteny; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:44:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from debian (ns.metm.org [64.81.200.243]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h5JGiH8m024637 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:44:17 -0400 Received: by debian (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9B410801F; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:47:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:47:22 -0400 From: Marco Scoffier To: Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [hangout] TRADEMARK APPLICATION NO. 78178384 - NYLXS - N/A Message-ID: <20030619164721.GR2405-at-metm.org> References: <20030619003057.GA10350-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030619003057.GA10350-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Marco Scoffier List: New Yorker GNU Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribe name-at-domian.com in the body to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Evolution: 000007c8-0000 X-Keywords: X-UID: 13219 Status: RO Content-Length: 6987 Lines: 167
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 08:30:57PM -0400, Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS wrote: > > > > Mark Differs On Drawing and Specimen I don't think any of us know what that means exactly. What is the difference between the drawing and the specimen.
As to the NY , I think Selso has a good idea that it would be a good idea to trademark the LXS or 'Gnu/linux scene' part. So that DCLXS, CHLXS, LALXS, PALXS would be possible.
I have no idea, however, how all this works. > > > > > > The drawing displays the mark as NYLXS. However, this differs from the > > display of the mark on the specimen, where it appears as NY above LXS. The > > applicant must either: > > > > (1) submit a new drawing of the mark that agrees with the specimen; or > > > > (2) submit a substitute specimen that shows use of the mark shown in the > > drawing. > > > > 37 C.F.R. Section 2.51; TMEP section 807.14. The applicant may not amend > > the drawing if the amendment would materially alter the character of the > > mark. 37 C.F.R. Section 2.72(a); TMEP section 807.14(a). > > > > If a substitute specimen is submitted, the applicant must verify, with an > > affidavit or a declaration under 37 C.F.R. Section 2.20, that the substitute > > specimen was in use in commerce at least as early as the filing date of the > > application. 37 C.F.R. Sections 2.59(a) and 2.72(a); TMEP section 905.10. > > > > > > Disclaimer > > > > > > If the applicant amends the drawing to NY LXS, the applicant must insert a > > disclaimer of the geographically descriptive term NY in the application. > > Trademark Act Section 6, 15 U.S.C. ?1056; TMEP ?1213. As found in The > > American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, (3rd ed., 1992), NY is > > an abbreviation for New York. The primary significance of the term NY is > > geographic, and applicant's services come from the geographical place named > > in the mark. Therefore, a public association of the goods/services with the > > place is presumed. In re JT Tobacconists, 59 USPQ2d 1080 (TTAB 2001); In re > > U.S. Cargo, Inc., 49 USPQ2d 1702 (TTAB 1998); In re Carolina Apparel, 48 > > USPQ2d 1542 (TTAB 1998); In re Chalk's International Airlines Inc., 21 > > USPQ2d 1637 (TTAB 1991); In re California Pizza Kitchen, 10 USPQ2d 1704 > > (TTAB 1989); In re Handler Fenton Westerns, Inc., 214 USPQ 848 (TTAB 1982). > > TMEP ?1210.04(b). > > > > The computerized printing format for the Trademark Official Gazette requires > > a standard form for a disclaimer. TMEP ?1213.08(a)(i). A properly worded > > disclaimer should read as follows: > > > > No claim is made to the exclusive right to use NY apart from the mark as > > shown. > > > > See In re Owatonna Tool Co., 231 USPQ 493 (Comm'r Pats. 1983). > > > > A disclaimer does not remove the disclaimed matter from the mark. It is > > simply a statement that the applicant does not claim exclusive rights in the > > disclaimed wording or design apart from the mark as shown in the drawing. > > > > > > Miscellaneous > > > > > > Change of Address - Applicants may now file changes of correspondence > > address via a new form on TEAS. Address changes may be performed on up to > > 20 cases at a time. The Trademark Office strongly encourages applicants to > > use this time-saving form which is available online at: > > > > http://eteas.uspto.gov/V2.0/ca200/WIZARD.htm > > > > > > Fee increase effective January 1, 2003 - Effective January 1, 2003, the > > fee for filing an application for trademark registration will be increased > > to $335.00 per International Class. The USPTO will not accord a filing date > > to applications that are filed on or after that date that are not > > accompanied by a minimum of $335.00. > > > > Additionally, the fee for amending an existing application to add an > > additional class or classes of goods/services will be $335.00 per class for > > classes added on or after January 1, 2003. > > > > If the applicant has any questions or needs assistance in responding to this > > Office action, please telephone the assigned examining attorney. > > > > > > /Leslie L. Richards/ > > Trademark Examining Attorney > > Law Office 106 > > 703-308-9106 ext. 172 > > 703-746-8106 fax > > ecom106-at-uspto.gov > > > > > > How to respond to this Office Action: > > > > To respond formally using the Office's Trademark Electronic Application > > System (TEAS), visit http://www.uspto.gov/teas/index.html > > and follow the instructions. > > > > To respond formally via E-mail, visit > > http://www.uspto.gov/web/trademarks/tmelecresp.htm > > and follow the > > instructions. > > > > To respond formally via regular mail, your response should be sent to the > > mailing Return Address listed above and include the serial number, law > > office and examining attorney's name on the upper right corner of each page > > of your response. > > > > To check the status of your application at any time, visit the Office's > > Trademark Applications and Registrations Retrieval (TARR) system at > > http://tarr.uspto.gov/ > > > > For general and other useful information about trademarks, you are > > encouraged to visit the Office's web site at > > http://www.uspto.gov/main/trademarks.htm > > > > > > FOR INQUIRIES OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS OFFICE ACTION, PLEASE CONTACT THE > > ASSIGNED EXAMINING ATTORNEY. > > > > -- > __________________________ > Brooklyn Linux Solutions > __________________________ > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting > http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... > > 1-718-382-0585 > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > __________________________ > Brooklyn Linux Solutions > __________________________ > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting > http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... > > 1-718-382-0585 > ____________________________ > NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > Fair Use - > because it's either fair use or useless.... > NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
-- ____________________________ NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
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