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| DATE | 2003-06-18 |
| FROM | Adam Kosmin
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Re: root password for President
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Thu Jun 19 00:36:47 2003 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h5J4al8m018322 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:36:47 -0400 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h5J4alLo018321 for hangout-desteny; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:36:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h5J4ak8m018315 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:36:46 -0400 Received: (from ruben-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h5J4akjg018314 for hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:36:46 -0400 Received: from nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.227]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h5J2N48m013144 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:23:04 -0400 Received: from nephilim (24-193-4-136.nyc.rr.com [24.193.4.136]) by nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com (8.12.1/Road Runner SMTP Server 1.0) with ESMTP id h5J2Q90m009508 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:24:09 -0400 From: Adam Kosmin To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: root password for President Message-ID: <20030619022409.GI6817-at-nephilim> References: <20030618120259.676.qmail-at-web11406.mail.yahoo.com> <1055945193.17378.3.camel-at-connie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1055945193.17378.3.camel-at-connie> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: http://windowsrefund.net/akosmin-pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: 11C2 79F6 BD3D 3A86 5640 3DA0 3860 B30E 711D 3B66 Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Adam Kosmin List: New Yorker GNU Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribe name-at-domian.com in the body to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Evolution: 000007a2-0000 X-Keywords: X-UID: 13241 Status: RO Content-Length: 2797 Lines: 72
I don't think my mails are coming through but believe I have located the source of the problem as having something to do with the fact that I've been signing messages sent to this list with PGP/MIME. I'll send this in the clear and add a send-hook into my .muttrc so I can avoid failed message transfers in the future.
Back on topic, I see this simple security issue turning into an unneeded political issue within NYLXS. As far as I am concerned, root belongs to one person and one person only (yes, just as in Highlander, "There can only be one"), the person who has been tasked with the health and maintenance of the server itself.
Now, we only need to determine who that person is.
Just because someone is the President of an organization, does not grant them access to have the root password in my opinion. Of course, there's nothing saying that this can't be the case within NYLXS, but I think it's important for the members of this group to take a step back and remember that uid 0 is assigned to a person because of the associated responsibilty, not rank.
That said, who is responsible for the health of the server?
Adam Kosmin
" " I was not aware of Ruben granting full access of the server to anyone. " " As far as I know, although NYLXS's resources are on Ruben's machine it " is still his property. He didn't give it to NYLXS, and operates his " business and personal interests from it as well. " " In other words, NYLXS has a domain (or two), a site, some money, some " books, some donated equipment, and a few other software constructs, but " it doesn't own a server. " " On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 08:02, Selso DaSilva wrote: " > This, if anything frustrates me. As a very active " > member i was fooled into thinking that Marco our " > President and Tech committee chairman received the " > root password to NYLXS's server, From Ruben our " > Founder, and ex-President and one of our most active " > member. If this just slipped his mind all will be " > forgiven, but if this is a selfish act to control the " > democracy that attracted to to the group in the first " > place, this is a dark day. " > I would like member to respon to this and hopfully " > resolve it today. " > " > Thank you in advance for a prompt resolve " > " > Selso K.DaSilva " > Board Member " > Education Committee Chairman " " ____________________________ " NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene " Fair Use - " because it's either fair use or useless.... " NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc "
-- I can't think of one thing I'd do for a Klondike Bar...
____________________________ NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
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