|FROM ||Adam Kosmin
|SUBJECT ||Re: [hangout] Re: root password for President
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:24:09 -0400
From: Adam Kosmin
Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: root password for President
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I don't think my mails are coming through but believe I have located the
source of the problem as having something to do with the fact that I've
been signing messages sent to this list with PGP/MIME. I'll send this in
the clear and add a send-hook into my .muttrc so I can avoid failed
message transfers in the future.
Back on topic, I see this simple security issue turning into an unneeded
political issue within NYLXS. As far as I am concerned, root belongs to
one person and one person only (yes, just as in Highlander, "There can
only be one"), the person who has been tasked with the health and
maintenance of the server itself.
Now, we only need to determine who that person is.
Just because someone is the President of an organization, does not grant
them access to have the root password in my opinion. Of course, there's
nothing saying that this can't be the case within NYLXS, but I think
it's important for the members of this group to take a step back and
remember that uid 0 is assigned to a person because of the associated
responsibilty, not rank.
That said, who is responsible for the health of the server?
" I was not aware of Ruben granting full access of the server to anyone.
" As far as I know, although NYLXS's resources are on Ruben's machine it
" is still his property. He didn't give it to NYLXS, and operates his
" business and personal interests from it as well.
" In other words, NYLXS has a domain (or two), a site, some money, some
" books, some donated equipment, and a few other software constructs, but
" it doesn't own a server.
" On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 08:02, Selso DaSilva wrote:
" > This, if anything frustrates me. As a very active
" > member i was fooled into thinking that Marco our
" > President and Tech committee chairman received the
" > root password to NYLXS's server, From Ruben our
" > Founder, and ex-President and one of our most active
" > member. If this just slipped his mind all will be
" > forgiven, but if this is a selfish act to control the
" > democracy that attracted to to the group in the first
" > place, this is a dark day.
" > I would like member to respon to this and hopfully
" > resolve it today.
" > Thank you in advance for a prompt resolve
" > Selso K.DaSilva
" > Board Member
" > Education Committee Chairman
" NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
" Fair Use -
" because it's either fair use or useless....
" NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
I can't think of one thing I'd do for a Klondike Bar...
NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
Fair Use -
because it's either fair use or useless....
NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc