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Democracy and the Information Revolution
Mark Malloch Brown, United Nations Development Programme
http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org/content/stories/index.cfm?key=192

October 9, 2001

Information and Communications Technology (ICT) has already changed the way
we work, the way we shop, the way we learn and the way we communicate. Now
it is starting to change the way we relate to governments. And nowhere is
that potential impact greater than in the developing world, where it is
increasingly intersecting with another, equally powerful revolution for
democracy and democratic governance.


In this respect, we are now in a situation similar to that of late 15th and
16th Century Europe. Then, the spread of knowledge triggered by Gutenberg's
printing press both helped to drive, and was supported by, a continent-wide
rivalry of religious ideas. Now, the Internet has become both the fuel and
the vehicle for a dramatic spread in democracy, intensifying demand for and
supporting the spread of genuinely transparent and participatory and more
efficient systems of government at both the national and global levels. The
number of democracies worldwide has doubled in little more than a decade.
But in too many countries, institutions remain fragile, services are weak,
officials unaccountable. And the lack of a democratic dividend-in terms of
jobs and better services-has been undermining public faith in these new
systems, particularly among the poor. ICT offers real hope in all these
areas, offering greater citizen input into decision-making and better social
services for all.


>From the Philippines to Zimbabwe, we have seen over the past year how
cell-phones and e-mail have been used to gather supporters and spread ideas
and information across grassroots and global networks with dramatic effect.
ICT is also proving a vital tool in helping link new civil society networks
around key issues, from global warming to women's empowerment to attempts to
make globalization more responsive to the needs of developing countries and
the poor. And it is a dynamic new way to help connect people to their
governments: When the new Prime Minister of Japan launched a regular e-mail
newsletter in July, 1.35 million people-20 percent of the country's Internet
users-signed up within days.


ICT can also make government services and institutions cheaper, more
efficient and more accessible. Developing countries like Brazil and Chile
already have successful experiments underway in these areas. In parts of
India, online government licensing is cutting through traditionally tortuous
bureaucracies.

UNDP is involved in a number of pioneering initiatives in this area,
including:

Belarus: using the Web to help make legal systems more transparent and
accessible to the public;
Botswana: linking all legislators online and allowing citizens to follow
parliamentary proceedings on the Internet;
Bulgaria: bringing non-governmental organizations and municipalities
together across a common network as part of a major anti-corruption
initiative.
These efforts do not require a computer in every house-just a focus on
content relevant to the public and public access that can be developed
through private, public or public-private initiatives.


Still, there is little point talking about the impact of ICT on democracy
and development in countries where ICT barely exists. Just 0.4 percent of
Africans and South Asians have used the Internet, compared to over half of
North Americans. So the first challenge in harnessing limited resources is
to identify the strategic levers of change that best help countries to boost
the spread and application of ICT.


As our Human Development Report 2001 (www.undp.org/hdro) argues, governments
need to put in place an enabling environment that encourages investments in
hard-ware and tertiary education. A Digital Opportunity Initiative study
(www.opt-init. org) that UNDP recently undertook with Accenture and the
Markle Foundation shows the need for developing countries to put in place
comprehensive national e-strategies that address issues such as
connectivity, regulatory environment, and human capacity. Usually a
well-educated technically-qualified pool of potential IT employees is a more
critical advantage than the quality of a country's telecom infrastructure.
This revolution really is about people. Helping countries to move forward in
these ways will be a central feature of our Global Network Readiness
initiative that we are rolling out first in Bolivia, Romania and Tanzania.


Estonia is one of the world's best examples of how much can be achieved with
the right enabling environment. That country's Tiger Leap project,
sup-ported by UNDP, wired the entire coun-try starting in the early 1990's
and has ensured that the current generation of Estonian student is 100
percent computer literate. Tiger Leap has also been a catalyst for regional
economic development and provides access points across the country, which
citizens can use to conduct most of their transactions with the government.
Almost all government documents-as well as Real Audio broadcasts of
parliamentary sessions-are available online.


Other countries should follow Estonia's lead. The global surge of democracy
is real but fragile. And ICT can help consolidate the gains of the past
several decades. Not just through encouraging the flow of ideas and
information, not just by transforming how states deliver serv-ices from
schools to security and hospitals to highways, but by supplying the most
important democratic dividend of all: a real say combined with choices and
opportunities, particularly for the poor.



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Mark Malloch Brown is the Administrator of the United Nations Development
Programme.


This article first appeared in CHOICES, the United Nations Development
Programme, Magazine, September 2001.


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  21. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] KDE security questions.
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  36. 2003-08-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] It may have been for naught...
  37. 2003-08-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] KDE security questions.
  38. 2003-08-04 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> Subject: [hangout] need a person for PHP & MySQL project
  39. 2003-08-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell Acquires Ximian
  40. 2003-08-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] OpenOffice...
  41. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Rob and Evan
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  44. 2003-08-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Red Hat fires back at SCO in Linux fight
  45. 2003-08-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] RedHat sues SCO for deceptive business practices.
  46. 2003-08-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Road Trip
  47. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] DBI/CGI Programmer (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
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  63. 2003-08-05 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Re:Crossfire Server
  64. 2003-08-06 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Editors Needed Imediately - available
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  67. 2003-08-06 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Help Editing
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  72. 2003-08-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM countersues SCO
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  76. 2003-08-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM counter sues SCO
  77. 2003-08-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] IBM counter sues SCO
  78. 2003-08-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] IBM countersues SCO
  79. 2003-08-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM countersues SCO
  80. 2003-08-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lindows continues its PC push
  81. 2003-08-08 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Lindows continues its PC push
  82. 2003-08-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Lindows continues its PC push
  83. 2003-08-08 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Lindows continues its PC push
  84. 2003-08-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Need info on Microsofts licensing tactics.
  85. 2003-08-08 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM counter sues SCO
  86. 2003-08-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Lindows continues its PC push
  87. 2003-08-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Lycoris Users Immune to SCO Licensing
  88. 2003-08-08 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Need info on Microsofts licensing tactics.
  89. 2003-08-09 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] How is this for FUD.
  90. 2003-08-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Night continues
  91. 2003-08-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  92. 2003-08-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  93. 2003-08-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl/ASP Developer (telecommute), United States, Texas, Austin]
  94. 2003-08-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Killarney Rose arises from the Ashes.....
  95. 2003-08-11 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Killarney Rose arises from the Ashes.....
  96. 2003-08-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  97. 2003-08-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  98. 2003-08-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  99. 2003-08-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  100. 2003-08-12 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] General membership and board meeting
  101. 2003-08-13 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  102. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  103. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  104. 2003-08-13 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  105. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  106. 2003-08-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM and banking
  107. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  108. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  109. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  110. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  111. 2003-08-13 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  112. 2003-08-13 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  113. 2003-08-13 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  114. 2003-08-13 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  115. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: #357: Pipes in NYPost on "The Terrorist Next Door" (Hawash case) [dplist-at-danielpipes.org]
  116. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Your Linux Today Security Letter for August 13, 2003 [reply-478d-1808-2f6b114cd7-at-nl.internet.com]
  117. 2003-08-13 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  118. 2003-08-13 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  119. 2003-08-13 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM and banking
  120. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More Interesting Holes in MS
  121. 2003-08-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  122. 2003-08-14 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  123. 2003-08-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  124. 2003-08-14 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  125. 2003-08-14 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  126. 2003-08-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] more GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  127. 2003-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  128. 2003-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  129. 2003-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  130. 2003-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  131. 2003-08-15 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  132. 2003-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] crossfire tonight?
  133. 2003-08-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Welcome back.
  134. 2003-08-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Where were you when the lights went off?
  135. 2003-08-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  136. 2003-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  137. 2003-08-16 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  138. 2003-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  139. 2003-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  140. 2003-08-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  141. 2003-08-16 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  142. 2003-08-16 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  143. 2003-08-16 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  144. 2003-08-16 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  145. 2003-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wiki (fwd)
  146. 2003-08-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wiki (fwd)
  147. 2003-08-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] crossfire tonight?
  148. 2003-08-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Operating Systems...
  149. 2003-08-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] OS/2/IBM/Banks.
  150. 2003-08-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Satellite that was knocked out a few years ago.
  151. 2003-08-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Ultraleftism.
  152. 2003-08-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Wiki (fwd)
  153. 2003-08-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  154. 2003-08-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  155. 2003-08-17 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  156. 2003-08-17 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  157. 2003-08-17 Jacek Blizinski <azidog-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Safe to read.
  158. 2003-08-17 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Ultraleftism.
  159. 2003-08-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  160. 2003-08-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] EULA Law
  161. 2003-08-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: General membership and board meeting
  162. 2003-08-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Safe to read.
  163. 2003-08-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Ultra..
  164. 2003-08-17 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  165. 2003-08-18 Robert Marino <prmarino-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Operating Systems...
  166. 2003-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] mod_perl/Linux Software Engineer for SSL VPN Leader (onsite), United States, New Jersey [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  167. 2003-08-18 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME summit update and Kings Games on Wednesday
  168. 2003-08-18 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] GUADEC REPORT: The counter proposal from the GNOME board...
  169. 2003-08-18 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Guadec 5
  170. 2003-08-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME summit update and Kings Games on Wednesday
  171. 2003-08-19 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME summit update and Kings Games on Wednesday
  172. 2003-08-19 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] GNOME summit update and Kings Games on Wednesday
  173. 2003-08-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS' materials
  174. 2003-08-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] CRN Interview: SuSE Linux CEO / Face to Face Richard Seibt SuSE's CEO
  175. 2003-08-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 11, 18 August 2003
  176. 2003-08-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] DistroWatch/SuSe arrogance.
  177. 2003-08-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM Article: Use the /proc filesystem to get a handle on your sy
  178. 2003-08-19 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS' materials
  179. 2003-08-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Wednesday Night Gnome Development Meeting
  180. 2003-08-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Felten, 08/28/03
  181. 2003-08-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Felten, 08/28/03
  182. 2003-08-20 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] IBM Article: Use the /proc filesystem to get a han
  183. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Laptops for All
  184. 2003-08-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Laptops for All
  185. 2003-08-20 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Nothing is Forever
  186. 2003-08-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Nothing is Forever
  187. 2003-08-20 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS' materials
  188. 2003-08-20 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS' materials
  189. 2003-08-20 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS' materials
  190. 2003-08-20 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] SAMBA News (19th Aug, 2003) SCO use of Samba code u
  191. 2003-08-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Orientation
  192. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Connecting Kids to Technology: Challenges and Opportunities
  193. 2003-08-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Crossfire client for OSX...
  194. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Democracy and the Information Revolution
  195. 2003-08-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Felten, 08/28/03
  196. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Laptops for All
  197. 2003-08-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Nothing is Forever
  198. 2003-08-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Board Minutes
  199. 2003-08-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Organizing the GNOME Developers Conference
  200. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Readers respond: SCO's McBride doesn't speak for IT in IBM fight
  201. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SAMBA News (19th Aug, 2003) SCO use of Samba code under the GPL
  202. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO users divided over GPL
  203. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Two on Backfire of SCO's "Smoking Gun"
  204. 2003-08-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] LAMP+XML developer (onsite), United States, DC, Washington]
  205. 2003-08-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Senior Engineer / Analyst (onsite), United States, MA, Cambridge
  206. 2003-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Felten, 08/28/03
  207. 2003-08-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] How does this work?
  208. 2003-08-21 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] How does this work?
  209. 2003-08-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] How does this work?
  210. 2003-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Organizing the GNOME Developers Conference
  211. 2003-08-21 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Organizing the GNOME Developers Conference
  212. 2003-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Organizing the GNOME Developers Conference
  213. 2003-08-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Organizing the GNOME Developers Conference
  214. 2003-08-21 From: "David Sugar" <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Organizing the GNOME Developers Conference
  215. 2003-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DRM is Theft
  216. 2003-08-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Help moving stuff
  217. 2003-08-21 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] How does this work?
  218. 2003-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IRC NOW
  219. 2003-08-21 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell Bets on Linux
  220. 2003-08-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Playtime
  221. 2003-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] DRM is Theft
  222. 2003-08-22 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Help moving stuff
  223. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] irc
  224. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell Bets on Linux
  225. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] DRM is Theft
  226. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME CONFERENCE MINUTES
  227. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I take it back - I;m not banned from NYLUG
  228. 2003-08-22 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] irc
  229. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLGU list
  230. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS is Breathign Again Easily
  231. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Some Interesting News this weel
  232. 2003-08-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Volunteers needed
  233. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [GeoBear-at-geobop.com: Freedomware Campaign]
  234. 2003-08-23 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME Developers Sumit
  235. 2003-08-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME Developers Sumit
  236. 2003-08-23 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME Developers Sumit
  237. 2003-08-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME Developers Sumit
  238. 2003-08-23 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME Developers Sumit
  239. 2003-08-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME Developers Sumit
  240. 2003-08-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME Developers Summit
  241. 2003-08-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Volunteer needed to take press photo's
  242. 2003-08-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] mod_perl / DBI developer for web projects (telecommute), Australia, Queensland, Brisbane]
  243. 2003-08-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell Bets on Linux
  244. 2003-08-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Editing an MP3
  245. 2003-08-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Biggest Free Softwaree Chamber of Commerce Meeting of the Year
  246. 2003-08-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW: must see this
  247. 2003-08-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Biggest Free Softwaree Chamber of Commerce Meeting of the Year
  248. 2003-08-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: must see this
  249. 2003-08-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] The work force transforms, creating new challenges for federal ma
  250. 2003-08-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PR for tonight
  251. 2003-08-26 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] PR for tonight
  252. 2003-08-26 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> RE: [hangout] PR for tonight
  253. 2003-08-26 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] PR for tonight
  254. 2003-08-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] COnsulting Oppurtunity with US Gov
  255. 2003-08-26 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] PR for tonight
  256. 2003-08-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [thomas-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: sendmail (SuSE-SA:2003:035)]
  257. 2003-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Edit mp3
  258. 2003-08-27 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME development summit approved
  259. 2003-08-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] scanner needed
  260. 2003-08-27 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Subject: [hangout] Edit mp3
  261. 2003-08-27 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting - Tues Aug 26, 2003
  262. 2003-08-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME COnference
  263. 2003-08-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME development summit approved
  264. 2003-08-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Last Nights Meeting
  265. 2003-08-27 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] scanner needed
  266. 2003-08-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Flyers for Classes
  267. 2003-08-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyers for Classes
  268. 2003-08-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Flyers for Classes
  269. 2003-08-28 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Gimp book (online)
  270. 2003-08-28 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  271. 2003-08-28 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  272. 2003-08-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  273. 2003-08-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  274. 2003-08-28 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  275. 2003-08-28 akbar <akbar-at-pionerd.org> RE: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  276. 2003-08-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  277. 2003-08-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Flyers for Classes
  278. 2003-08-28 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Gimp book (online)
  279. 2003-08-28 akbar <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] head first java
  280. 2003-08-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  281. 2003-08-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Staten Island Events
  282. 2003-08-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Whirlwindstate-at-aol.com: Fwd: MY Group Show " 9-11 Remembered"
  283. 2003-08-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] No plans to sue Linux companies, says SCO
  284. 2003-08-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] No plans to sue Linux companies, says SCO
  285. 2003-08-29 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] No plans to sue Linux companies, says SCO
  286. 2003-08-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> RE: [hangout] No plans to sue Linux companies, says SCO
  287. 2003-08-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] No plans to sue Linux companies, says SCO
  288. 2003-08-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DRM is Theft
  289. 2003-08-29 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Interesting article on Valenti in this months Business2.0.
  290. 2003-08-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] No plans to sue Linux companies, says SCO
  291. 2003-08-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] DRM is Theft
  292. 2003-08-29 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] RE: [fairuse] DRM is Theft
  293. 2003-08-30 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] freshrpms.net
  294. 2003-08-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] DRM is Theft
  295. 2003-08-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Video of the Meeting
  296. 2003-08-31 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video of the Meeting
  297. 2003-08-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video of the Meeting

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