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DATE 2003-08-17
FROM Ruben I Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] EULA Law

(Copyright Noel Humphrey 2003)

End user license agreements or EULA's, are alive and well. Two recent
cases have focused attention on the vigor and efficacy of non-negotiable
statements of terms that govern access to copyrighted or patented works.
The courts treated these statements as enforceable contracts.

In a reverse engineering case, the US Circuit Court of Appeals for the
Federal Circuit published its decision in Bowers v. Baystate
Technologies January 29, 2003, and the Supreme Court announced in June
that it would not hear an appeal from the appeals court's decision.
Citations and links appear in sidebar. In this case, the court enforced
the EULA's terms to forbid reverse engineering.

The second decision, involving deep-linking by a competitor, reflects
pre-trial motions in the long-running Tickets.Com. Ticketmaster Corp. v.
Tickets.Com, Inc., case. Filed March 7, 2003, this decision upheld a web
site operator's contract claims against a competitor that sent software
robots or spiders to collect information from a site.

Taken together, these two decisions suggest that EULA's typically enjoy
genuine viability in US law. These decisions erode fair use and freedom
of access.

Bowers v. Baystate

Facts

Harold L. Bowers created a template to improve CAD software. Bowers
filed a patent application in 1989, and patent No. 4,933,514 issued the
next year. After a re-examination, a patent re-examination certificate
issued in 1997. Bowers' software claims to place the CAD commands in a
visual and logical order.

A man named George W. Ford III designed a software program to work with
CAD software to ensure that a design complies with the geometric
dimensioning and tolerancing requirements of a standard published by
ANSI. In 1990, Bowers began to license his template and Ford's software
in a single bundled product referred to as Designer's Toolkit.

Defendant Baystate Technologies also marketed software that enhanced the
functionality of the Cadkey CAD program. Baystate did not want to
establish a formal relationship with Bowers. In 1991, Baystate obtained
a copy of Bowers' Designer Toolkit. A few months later, Baystate
introduced its own version 3 of its Draft-Pak product, which
incorporated features of Bowers' Designer Toolkit. Price competition
followed.

Eventually Baystate bought the Cadkey company and eliminated Bowers from
the network, effectively preventing Bowers from developing and marketing
the Designer's Toolkit for the Cadkey program.

Baystate sued for a declaratory judgment that Baystate's program did not
infringe Bowers' patent or that Bowers' patent was invalid or
unenforceable. Bowers countersued for damages and infringement.

At a trial in federal court in Massachusetts, a jury determined that
Baystate had breached its agreement with Bowers. The jury awarded Bowers
several million dollars of damages. The district court judge reduced the
award to $5,270,142. Both sides appealed.

The Issue

Bowers' shrink-wrap EULA was at issue. The EULA stated that the user was
not permitted to reverse engineer the software. In other words, the
EULA's language prohibited the user from translating from object code to
source code. Bowers asserted that Baystate was not legally permitted to
reverse engineer Bowers' software. Bowers argued this position, not
because the reverse engineering resulted in a copyright violation, but
instead because the reverse engineering violated the EULA between Bowers
and Baystate.

Baystate insisted Bowers could not enforce its EULA against Baystate
because the Copyright Act preempted the "no reverse engineering"
limitation in the EULA. Generally, "preemption" means that a federal
statute is so important or intended to be so comprehensive in its
effects that its language overrides state law that restricts the federal
statute. In this case, the argument was that the strength of the federal
policy of allowing reverse engineering so overwhelmed that area of law
that a state law element that inhibited the enforcement of the federal
law's reach should not be enforced. State law ordinarily governs
contract law.

The US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit heard the case because
it has appellate jurisdiction for cases with patent claims.

Majority Opinion

The court of appeals enforced the EULA that limited the reverse
engineering. The court held that the Copyright Act does not "preempt or
narrow the scope of Mr. Bowers' contract claim." The court said that the
elements of the copyright claim and the contract claim were different,
and, therefore, the Copyright Act is not intended to overpower these
contract claims.

The court cited prominently the ProCD, Inc.v. Zeidenberg case for the
proposition that federal copyright law does not preempt a shrink-wrap
license. The Bowers court said Judge Easterbrook had said in that case
that "mutual assent and consideration required by a contract claim
render that claim qualitatively different from copyright infringement."

The Bowers court said that its holding did not disturb the famous Atari
Games v. Nintendo case. In that decision, the court said that "reverse
engineering object code to discern the unprotectable ideas in a computer
program is a fair use." In that case, Atari obtained the software that
it copied directly from the Copyright Office, not from Nintendo.

The Bowers court, in other words, viewed the EULA as indicating that
Baystate had voluntarily and knowingly relinquished its fair use right
to reverse engineer Bowers' software "by mutual consent and
consideration."

The appeals court backed the jury's conclusion based on ample evidence
that Baystate had reverse engineered Bowers' software, despite the EULA
provision that forbade reverse engineering.

The majority opinion, of course, cannot be faulted for concluding that a
contract claim and a copyright infringement claim have different
elements. The weakness of the majority decision is that the court
apparently viewed a shrink-wrap EULA as mutual, voluntary and knowing.
If the court had had a different vision of a EULA, then the outcome
might have been different, too.

Dissent

Circuit Judge Dyk wrote a dissent from the majority opinion in
connection with the copyright analysis. He apparently had the
shrink-wrap EULA in mind. The dissenting opinion said that the
"majority's approach permits state law to eviscerate an important
federal copyright policy reflected in the fair use defense, and the
majority's logic threatens other federal copyright policies as well."

This case generated publicity, and Judge Dyk obviously was listening to
comment from friends of the court. The three-judge panel had initially
decided the case unanimously, but, after reconsideration, Judge Dyk
dissented from the copyright portion of the majority decision. See, for
example, the friend of the court brief from the Electronic Frontier
Foundation at
http://www.eff.org/IP/Emulation/20020918_baystate-amicus.pdf.

Judge Dyk concluded that the rule should be that "state law authorizing
shrink-wrap licenses that prohibit reverse engineering is preempted."
Judge Dyk acknowledged that the contract claim and the copyright claim
are different, when you consider the elements of the claims, but said
that the effect is the same because the contract is merely a limitation
on protecting the work from unauthorized copying. Therefore, he said,
the copyright law should preempt the contract claim. A state is not free
to eliminate the fair use defense, Judge Dyk wrote.

Judge Dyk wrote that a freely negotiated EULA differs from a shrink-wrap
EULA in this setting. If the court enforces a shrink-wrap EULA, Judge
Dyk wrote, then the EULA is like a state law that would provide that a
user could not copy a work that had a black dot in the corner of the
page. Such a state law would give the owner of the work complete power
over behavior that would otherwise constitute fair use. Enforcing this
EULA enables state law to give the copyright holder "the ability to
eliminate the fair use defense in each and every instance at its
option." The majority opinion permits shrink-wrap agreements that are
broader than the protection that comes from the Copyright Act, Judge Dyk
wrote.

Judge Dyk relied on the copyright law decision in Vault Corp. v. Quaid
Software, and the Supreme Court's patent law decision in Bonito Boats v.
Thunder Craft Boats.

Judge Dyk distinguished the ProCD case on the grounds that the
limitation that enforcement of the EULA provided was the difference in
the charge between the fee for commercial use and the fee for
non-commercial use. That is different, Judge Dyk said, from a
restriction on copying. Copying is what the Copyright Act controls,
whereas the Copyright Act does not address the rate of the fee.

The Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal in June 2003.

Ticketmaster

Facts

The Ticketmaster case is an extended commercial feud between on-line
ticket purveyors. The case involves a practice known as "deep-linking"
whereby Tickets.com hyperlinked directly into URL's within
Ticketmaster's web site bypassing the opening pages that Ticketmaster
wanted customers to see. Tickets.com sent "spiders" to Ticketmaster's
web site to copy information about forthcoming events and URLs to which
to direct Tickets.com customers. The spiders copied the Ticketmaster
pages and then retained the information while discarding the
intellectual property parts.

Tickets.com asked the court to dismiss the claims. Ticketmaster made
three separate legal arguments. First, Ticketmaster asserted that the
court should enforce the terms of use set forth at the Ticketmaster
homepage as a contract that governs a web user's access to
Ticketmaster's site. Second, Ticketmaster asserted that the spiders
constituted an actionable "trespass to chattels" because they come onto
Ticketmaster servers in an unwelcome way. Third, Ticketmaster asserted
that the spiders violated Ticketmaster's copyrighted works by copying
the contents of Ticketmaster's site.

The Contract Cause of Action

Ticketmaster's site's home page contained a notice to the effect that a
person who goes into the site beyond the home page accepts certain
conditions. Among those conditions was a statement that information
obtained from the site was for personal use, not commercial use.

Tickets.com executives were familiar with the Ticketmaster sites' rules.
In fact, a Tickets.com letter to Ticketmaster tried to reject
specifically the notice's terms. The court considered whether the
spiders that crawled the Ticketmaster site created a binding contract in
the situation where the Tickets.com executives knew Ticketmasters'
terms. In other words, this was not a case where the web site user was
not familiar with the EULA terms. The court had no reason to investigate
the prominence of the notice, because the parties agreed that the notice
was prominent and because the Tickets.com executives did know the terms.

Judge Hupp, a senior district court judge for the Central District of
California, wrote that he "would prefer a rule that required an
unmistakable assent to the conditions easily provided by clicking on an
icon which says 'I agree' or the equivalent. Such a rule would provide
certainty in trial and make it clear that the user had called to his
attention the conditions he or she accepted when using the web site.
However, the law has not developed in this way."

Instead, Judge Hupp wrote, "The principle has long been established that
no particular form of words is necessary to indicate assent-the offeror
may specify that a certain action in connection with his offer is deemed
acceptance, and ripens into a contract when the action is taken." The
court cited such examples as a cruise ship ticket with a venue provision
printed on the back, limitations on liability printed on the back of a
bill of lading, an air waybill or an airplane ticket, shrink-wrap cases,
and terms on the back of a parking lot ticket. See sidebar.

The court found that "a contract can be formed by proceeding into the
interior web pages after knowledge?of the conditions accepted in doing
so." The case involving a commercial visitor is different from a
consumer case, such as the Specht v. Netscape case (see sidebar), where
the contract terms are not known to the site's user and are not plainly
visible.

Tickets.com had moved to have Ticketmaster's claims dismissed by the
judge on the grounds that Ticketmaster had no valid legal claim. The
judge reluctantly agreed with Ticketmaster that the contract claim could
not be dismissed.

The Trespass to Chattels Claim

On the other hand, the judge did dismiss the "trespass to chattels" tort
claim. He wrote that "mere use of a spider to enter a publicly available
web site to gather information, without more, is insufficient to fulfill
the harm requirement for trespass to chattels."

Other courts, such as the court in the Register.com case, upheld the
trespass to chattels tort theory where "spider" software visits the
plaintiff's website regularly for commercial ends. Here, the court found
that there was not enough interference with Ticketmaster's site to
justify a tort claim. Judge Hupp wrote, "unless there is actual
dispossession of the chattel for a substantial time (not present here),
the elements of the tort have not been made out. Since the spider does
not cause physical injury to the chattel, thee must be some evidence
that the use or utility of the computer (or computer network) being
'spiderized' is adversely affected by the use of the spider."

After Judge Hupp published his opinion, California's Supreme Court in
Intel Corp. v. Hamidi threw out the trespass to chattels claim. That
decision emphasized that a plaintiff with a "trespass to chattels" claim
must show a genuine injury to succeed.

The Copyright Claim

Ticketmaster also claimed Tickets.com's spiders wrongfully copied
Ticketmaster intellectual property. Judge Hupp decided that the brief
period of the copying was protected by "fair use." The Tickets.com
computers discarded all the Ticketmaster propriety expression after "10
to 15 seconds" while retaining the information. Copyright protects
expression, rather than information. The court analogized this pattern
to reverse engineering that required a temporary copy of the protected
work in order to have access to the unprotected, publicly available,
factual information. Ticketmaster intellectual property did not appear
to the public. Tickets.com was merely collecting information and not
exploiting Ticketmaster's "creative labors." The court said facts, such
as the existence of an event, its date and time and its ticket prices
"are not subject to copyright."

Likewise, the court said that a URL is not protected by copyright,
because it is "simply an address, open to the public."

Ticketmaster also argued that the deep-linking created an unauthorized
public display of Ticketmaster events pages. This display occurred when
a Tickets.com's site's user clicks on the link to the Ticketmaster page.
Judge Hupp determined that the facts do not fit the facts of those cases
where the court stopped framing. Tickets.com's method did not mislead
users about the owner of the page where the user was sent.

The court dismissed the copyright claims from the action.

Conclusion

These two cases show that sophisticated US courts tend to enforce as
contracts non-negotiated statements of rights in the software area of
law, just as these courts do in other consumer and commercial settings.
Software users ignore shrink-wrap licenses at their peril. In today's
legal climate, courts do not generally perceive "fair use" as enough to
overcome the terms of purported licenses.



*************************** Noel D. Humphreys is Counsel to the law firm
Connell Foley LLP, Roseland, NJ. He may be reached at
nhumphreys-at-connellfoley.com.

*************************** Side Bar for Bowers v. Baystate Technologies
Federal District Court: 112 F. Supp.2d 185 (D. Mass. 2000) Federal
Circuit Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit: 320 F.3d 1317 (CAFC
2003), 2003 WL 262300; (online at
http://laws.lp.findlaw.com/getcase/fed/case/011108v2&exact=1). Court of
Appeals for the Federal Circuit, January 29, 2003
http://laws.findlaw.com/fed/011108v2.html
http://www.ll.georgetown.edu/federal/judicial/fed/opinions/01opinions/01-1108o.html
prior opinion: 302 F.3d 1334, 2002 U,S.App. LEXIS 17184, 64 U.S.P.Q.2d
(BNA) 1065, Cop. L. Rep. (CCH) P28,479 (August 20,2002):
http://www.law.upenn.edu/fac/pwagner/patents/2003sp/downloads/bowers_v_baystate_2002.pdf
Appellate court friend of the court briefs and comments:
http://www.acm.org/usacm/Briefs/bowersVbaystatebrie.htm
http://www.info-commons.org/blog/archives/000035.html
http://www.ll.georgetown.edu/aallwash/briefs.html
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/amicus/bowers_v_baystate_rehearing.pdf United
State Supreme Court denied certiorari, June 16, 2003: 123 S.Ct.
2588(mem), 71 USLW3709, 71 USLW 3770, 71 USLW 3774 (online at
http://supreme.lp.findlaw.com/supreme_court/orders/2002/061603pzor.html)
IEEE Supreme Court Amicus brief
http://www.ieeeusa.org/forum/policy/2003/Baystate060203.html
http://www.ieeeusa.org/forum/policy/2003/baystate%20amicus%20brief.pdf
Commentary: http://www.techlawjournal.com/topstories/2003/20030616.asp
http://rrcs-se-24-73-162-58.biz.rr.com/bowers/certreply.pdf
http://www.techlawjournal.com/topstories/2003/20030616.asp
http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/dmca-activists/2002-10/msg00075.html
http://www.sethf.com/infothought/blog/archives/000173.html
http://www.infoworld.com/article/02/09/13/020916opgripe_1.html
http://www.idg.com.sg/idgwww.nsf/0/3145265E7140D30D48256D520023F052?OpenDocument
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/06/26/HNreverseengineering_1.html?development
http://www.andrewspub.com/rptr_desc.asp?pub=SLB
http://www.ieeeusa.org/releases/2003/060403pr.html
http://gateway.library.uiuc.edu/administration/scholarly_communication_issues_29.htm
http://chronicle.com/free/2002/10/2002102501t.htm

IEEE links page http://rrcs-se-24-73-162-58.biz.rr.com/bowers/#reference

Side Bar for Ticketmaster: Federal District Court: CV 997654, 2003 U.S.
Dist. LEXIS 6483, 2003 WL 21406289, Copy.L.Rep (CCH)¶28,607(CDCal. 2003)
http://www.haledorr.com/pdf/ticketmaster.pdf

Deep-linking commentary
http://www.workz.com/cgi-bin/gt/tpl_page.html,template=1&content=1371&nav1=1&
http://www.nwsltr.com/article-deeplink.shtml
http://www.gigalaw.com/articles/2000-all/kubiszyn-2000-05b-all.html 2000
Ticketmaster case comment:
http://www.computerworld.com/news/2000/story/0,11280,43732,00.html
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,35306,00.html
http://linuxtoday.com/news/2000040700904NW
http://www.internetnews.com/ec-news/article.php/4_438011
http://www.computeruser.com/news/00/08/16/news8.html


Statutory exclusive rights under the Copyright Act:
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/106.html

The Statutory Fair Use Factors:
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html

Sidebar for ProCD, Inc.v. Zeidenberg: 86 F.3d 1447, 39 USPQ2d 1161 (7th
Cir., 1996)
http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/op3.fwx?yr=96&num=1139&Submit1=Request+Opinion.



Sidebar for the Atari Games v. Nintendo reverse engineering case: 975
F.2d 832, 24 USPQ2d 1015 (CAFC 1992)
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/openlaw/DVD/cases/atarivnintendo.html


Sidebar for Vault Corp. v. Quaid Software 847 F2d 255 (5th Cir., 1988)
(found online at
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/openlaw/DVD/cases/Vault_v_Quaid.html)
Sidebar for the Supreme Court's decision in Bonito Boats v. Thunder
Craft Boats, 489 US 141 (1989) (found online at
http://www.law.uconn.edu/homes/swilf/ip/cases/bonito.html).

Sidebar for the shrink-wrap cases Judge Hupp cited Register.com v.
Verio: 126 F.Supp2d 238 (SDNY, 2000) (The order may be found at
http://www.kentlaw.edu/legalaspects/preventing_access/register.com%20v.%20verio.htmor
http://www.icann.org/registrars/register.com-verio/order-08dec00.htm)
and

Judge Hupp also cited Pollstar v. Gigmania: 170 F. Supp. 2d 974; 2000
U.S. Dist. LEXIS 21035; Copy. L. Rep. (CCH) ¶28,329; 45 U.C.C. Rep.
Serv. 2d (Callaghan) 46 (EDCA, 2000) (The decision may be found at
http://euro.ecom.cmu.edu/program/courses/tcr840/2003/pollstar.htm).

Judge Hupp also cited Specht v. Netscape: 306 F.3d 17, 48 UCC
Rep.Serv.2d 761 (2d Cir. 2002), The lower court opinion was reported at
150 F.Supp2d 585 (SDNY 2001).
http://www.kentlaw.edu/legalaspects/digital_signatures/Contracting/readings/specht_v_netscape.pdf

Sidebar for Intel Corp. v. Hamidi: 30 Cal.4th 1342, 71 P.3d 296, 1
Cal.Rptr.3d 32, 20 IER Cases 65, 3 Cal. Daily Op. Serv. 5711, 2003 Daily
Journal D.A.R. 7181, Cal., Jun 30, 2003 Available online at
http://www.haledorr.com/pdf/intel_hamidi.pdf.

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  6. 2003-08-01 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] please excuse this spam
  7. 2003-08-01 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] [OT] perl q/ideas?
  8. 2003-08-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Biggest Free Softwaree Chamber of Commerce Meeting of the Year
  9. 2003-08-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Biggest Free Softwaree Chamber of Commerce Meeting of the Year
  10. 2003-08-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] The work force transforms, creating new challenges for federal ma
  11. 2003-08-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW: must see this
  12. 2003-08-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: must see this
  13. 2003-08-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Editing an MP3
  14. 2003-08-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell Bets on Linux
  15. 2003-08-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME Developers Summit
  16. 2003-08-23 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME Developers Sumit
  17. 2003-08-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME Developers Sumit
  18. 2003-08-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] mod_perl / DBI developer for web projects (telecommute), Australia, Queensland, Brisbane]
  19. 2003-08-23 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME Developers Sumit
  20. 2003-08-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME Developers Sumit
  21. 2003-08-23 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME Developers Sumit
  22. 2003-08-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Volunteer needed to take press photo's
  23. 2003-08-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME Developers Sumit
  24. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [GeoBear-at-geobop.com: Freedomware Campaign]
  25. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I take it back - I;m not banned from NYLUG
  26. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLGU list
  27. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME CONFERENCE MINUTES
  28. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] irc
  29. 2003-08-22 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] irc
  30. 2003-08-22 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Help moving stuff
  31. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell Bets on Linux
  32. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Some Interesting News this weel
  33. 2003-08-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Volunteers needed
  34. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS is Breathign Again Easily
  35. 2003-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] DRM is Theft
  36. 2003-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IRC NOW
  37. 2003-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] DRM is Theft
  38. 2003-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DRM is Theft
  39. 2003-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Organizing the GNOME Developers Conference
  40. 2003-08-21 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Organizing the GNOME Developers Conference
  41. 2003-08-21 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell Bets on Linux
  42. 2003-08-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Help moving stuff
  43. 2003-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Felten, 08/28/03
  44. 2003-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Organizing the GNOME Developers Conference
  45. 2003-08-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Organizing the GNOME Developers Conference
  46. 2003-08-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Playtime
  47. 2003-08-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] How does this work?
  48. 2003-08-21 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] How does this work?
  49. 2003-08-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] How does this work?
  50. 2003-08-21 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] How does this work?
  51. 2003-08-21 From: "David Sugar" <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Organizing the GNOME Developers Conference
  52. 2003-08-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Felten, 08/28/03
  53. 2003-08-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Orientation
  54. 2003-08-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Felten, 08/28/03
  55. 2003-08-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Organizing the GNOME Developers Conference
  56. 2003-08-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] LAMP+XML developer (onsite), United States, DC, Washington]
  57. 2003-08-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Senior Engineer / Analyst (onsite), United States, MA, Cambridge
  58. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Laptops for All
  59. 2003-08-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Laptops for All
  60. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Democracy and the Information Revolution
  61. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Connecting Kids to Technology: Challenges and Opportunities
  62. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Laptops for All
  63. 2003-08-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Crossfire client for OSX...
  64. 2003-08-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Felten, 08/28/03
  65. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Two on Backfire of SCO's "Smoking Gun"
  66. 2003-08-20 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] SAMBA News (19th Aug, 2003) SCO use of Samba code u
  67. 2003-08-20 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS' materials
  68. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO users divided over GPL
  69. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Readers respond: SCO's McBride doesn't speak for IT in IBM fight
  70. 2003-08-20 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Nothing is Forever
  71. 2003-08-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SAMBA News (19th Aug, 2003) SCO use of Samba code under the GPL
  72. 2003-08-20 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS' materials
  73. 2003-08-20 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] IBM Article: Use the /proc filesystem to get a han
  74. 2003-08-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Nothing is Forever
  75. 2003-08-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Board Minutes
  76. 2003-08-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Nothing is Forever
  77. 2003-08-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Wednesday Night Gnome Development Meeting
  78. 2003-08-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS' materials
  79. 2003-08-19 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS' materials
  80. 2003-08-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM Article: Use the /proc filesystem to get a handle on your sy
  81. 2003-08-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] DistroWatch/SuSe arrogance.
  82. 2003-08-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME summit update and Kings Games on Wednesday
  83. 2003-08-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] CRN Interview: SuSE Linux CEO / Face to Face Richard Seibt SuSE's CEO
  84. 2003-08-19 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME summit update and Kings Games on Wednesday
  85. 2003-08-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 11, 18 August 2003
  86. 2003-08-19 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] GNOME summit update and Kings Games on Wednesday
  87. 2003-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] mod_perl/Linux Software Engineer for SSL VPN Leader (onsite), United States, New Jersey [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  88. 2003-08-18 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME summit update and Kings Games on Wednesday
  89. 2003-08-18 Robert Marino <prmarino-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Operating Systems...
  90. 2003-08-18 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Guadec 5
  91. 2003-08-18 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] GUADEC REPORT: The counter proposal from the GNOME board...
  92. 2003-08-17 Jacek Blizinski <azidog-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Safe to read.
  93. 2003-08-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Safe to read.
  94. 2003-08-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  95. 2003-08-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] EULA Law
  96. 2003-08-17 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  97. 2003-08-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  98. 2003-08-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Ultra..
  99. 2003-08-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: General membership and board meeting
  100. 2003-08-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  101. 2003-08-17 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  102. 2003-08-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Ultraleftism.
  103. 2003-08-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Operating Systems...
  104. 2003-08-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] OS/2/IBM/Banks.
  105. 2003-08-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  106. 2003-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  107. 2003-08-16 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  108. 2003-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wiki (fwd)
  109. 2003-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  110. 2003-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  111. 2003-08-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  112. 2003-08-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wiki (fwd)
  113. 2003-08-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Wiki (fwd)
  114. 2003-08-16 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  115. 2003-08-16 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  116. 2003-08-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Satellite that was knocked out a few years ago.
  117. 2003-08-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] crossfire tonight?
  118. 2003-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] crossfire tonight?
  119. 2003-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  120. 2003-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  121. 2003-08-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Welcome back.
  122. 2003-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  123. 2003-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  124. 2003-08-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Where were you when the lights went off?
  125. 2003-08-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] more GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  126. 2003-08-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  127. 2003-08-14 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  128. 2003-08-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  129. 2003-08-13 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  130. 2003-08-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM and banking
  131. 2003-08-13 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM and banking
  132. 2003-08-13 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  133. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  134. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  135. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  136. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: #357: Pipes in NYPost on "The Terrorist Next Door" (Hawash case) [dplist-at-danielpipes.org]
  137. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  138. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  139. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  140. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More Interesting Holes in MS
  141. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Your Linux Today Security Letter for August 13, 2003 [reply-478d-1808-2f6b114cd7-at-nl.internet.com]
  142. 2003-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  143. 2003-08-13 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  144. 2003-08-13 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  145. 2003-08-13 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  146. 2003-08-13 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  147. 2003-08-13 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME foundation seeks host city for Guadec 5
  148. 2003-08-13 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  149. 2003-08-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  150. 2003-08-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  151. 2003-08-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  152. 2003-08-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
  153. 2003-08-12 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] General membership and board meeting
  154. 2003-08-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Killarney Rose arises from the Ashes.....
  155. 2003-08-11 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Killarney Rose arises from the Ashes.....
  156. 2003-08-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Night continues
  157. 2003-08-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  158. 2003-08-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  159. 2003-08-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl/ASP Developer (telecommute), United States, Texas, Austin]
  160. 2003-08-09 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] How is this for FUD.
  161. 2003-08-08 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] IBM counter sues SCO
  162. 2003-08-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM counter sues SCO
  163. 2003-08-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lindows continues its PC push
  164. 2003-08-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] IBM counter sues SCO
  165. 2003-08-08 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM counter sues SCO
  166. 2003-08-08 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Lindows continues its PC push
  167. 2003-08-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Lindows continues its PC push
  168. 2003-08-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Lycoris Users Immune to SCO Licensing
  169. 2003-08-08 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Lindows continues its PC push
  170. 2003-08-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Lindows continues its PC push
  171. 2003-08-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] IBM countersues SCO
  172. 2003-08-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM countersues SCO
  173. 2003-08-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Need info on Microsofts licensing tactics.
  174. 2003-08-08 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Need info on Microsofts licensing tactics.
  175. 2003-08-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [lordvolton-at-yahoo.com: Re: Your legal rights against SCO.]
  176. 2003-08-07 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] IBM countersues SCO
  177. 2003-08-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM countersues SCO
  178. 2003-08-07 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] This could be a problem.
  179. 2003-08-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [lordvolton-at-yahoo.com: Re: Your legal rights against SCO.]
  180. 2003-08-06 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Help Editing
  181. 2003-08-06 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Progress on Mandrake G4 install.
  182. 2003-08-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Meeting Tonight?
  183. 2003-08-06 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Editors Needed Imediately - available
  184. 2003-08-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re:Crossfire Server
  185. 2003-08-06 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re:Crossfire Server
  186. 2003-08-05 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Meeting
  187. 2003-08-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Meeting
  188. 2003-08-05 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Meeting
  189. 2003-08-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re:Crossfire Server
  190. 2003-08-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl Job: United States, NJ, Trenton
  191. 2003-08-05 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re:Crossfire Server
  192. 2003-08-05 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re:Crossfire Server
  193. 2003-08-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re:Crossfire Server
  194. 2003-08-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re:Crossfire Server
  195. 2003-08-05 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Idea for NYLXS.
  196. 2003-08-05 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Idea for NYLXS.
  197. 2003-08-05 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Idea for NYLXS.
  198. 2003-08-05 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Idea for NYLXS.
  199. 2003-08-05 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Re:Crossfire Server
  200. 2003-08-05 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Editors Needed Imediately
  201. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Crossfire Server
  202. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] KDE security questions.
  203. 2003-08-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] KDE security questions.
  204. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL
  205. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [learn] Editors Needed Imediately
  206. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Editors Needed Imediately
  207. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell Acquires Ximian
  208. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] need a person for PHP & MySQL project
  209. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] DBI/CGI Programmer (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  210. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] KDE security questions.
  211. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] re:I want to learn linux
  212. 2003-08-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] RedHat sues SCO for deceptive business practices.
  213. 2003-08-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Red Hat fires back at SCO in Linux fight
  214. 2003-08-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] It may have been for naught...
  215. 2003-08-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] It may have been for naught...
  216. 2003-08-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] OpenOffice...
  217. 2003-08-04 From: "J L" <lokokool-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] re:I want to learn linux
  218. 2003-08-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] I want to learn linux
  219. 2003-08-04 From: "J L" <lokokool-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] I want to learn linux
  220. 2003-08-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] KDE security questions.
  221. 2003-08-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: RE: [hangout] KDE security questions.
  222. 2003-08-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] KDE security questions.
  223. 2003-08-04 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> Subject: [hangout] need a person for PHP & MySQL project
  224. 2003-08-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Paging Rob and Evan
  225. 2003-08-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Road Trip
  226. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Rob and Evan
  227. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell Acquires Ximian
  228. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Road Trip
  229. 2003-08-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Road Trip
  230. 2003-08-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell Acquires Ximian
  231. 2003-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [krahmer-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: postfix (SuSE-SA:2003:033)]
  232. 2003-08-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Night
  233. 2003-08-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] a question about network.
  234. 2003-08-03 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] a question about network.
  235. 2003-08-03 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] My Present Situation
  236. 2003-08-03 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [Perl Jobs] Perl developer (onsite), United States, Ny, Brooklyn]
  237. 2003-08-03 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Death in The Family] (fwd)
  238. 2003-08-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show tonite
  239. 2003-08-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Nite: The continuing saga of greatness
  240. 2003-08-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Death in The Family
  241. 2003-08-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Death in The Family
  242. 2003-08-31 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video of the Meeting
  243. 2003-08-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video of the Meeting
  244. 2003-08-30 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] freshrpms.net
  245. 2003-08-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Video of the Meeting
  246. 2003-08-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] DRM is Theft
  247. 2003-08-29 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Interesting article on Valenti in this months Business2.0.
  248. 2003-08-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] No plans to sue Linux companies, says SCO
  249. 2003-08-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] DRM is Theft
  250. 2003-08-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] No plans to sue Linux companies, says SCO
  251. 2003-08-29 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] No plans to sue Linux companies, says SCO
  252. 2003-08-29 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] RE: [fairuse] DRM is Theft
  253. 2003-08-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DRM is Theft
  254. 2003-08-28 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  255. 2003-08-28 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Gimp book (online)
  256. 2003-08-28 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Gimp book (online)
  257. 2003-08-28 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  258. 2003-08-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  259. 2003-08-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  260. 2003-08-28 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  261. 2003-08-28 akbar <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] head first java
  262. 2003-08-28 akbar <akbar-at-pionerd.org> RE: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  263. 2003-08-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Whirlwindstate-at-aol.com: Fwd: MY Group Show " 9-11 Remembered"
  264. 2003-08-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Flyers for Classes
  265. 2003-08-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyers for Classes
  266. 2003-08-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  267. 2003-08-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Flyers for Classes
  268. 2003-08-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Staten Island Events
  269. 2003-08-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use ==> NYACSH switch other
  270. 2003-08-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Flyers for Classes
  271. 2003-08-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME COnference
  272. 2003-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Edit mp3
  273. 2003-08-27 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME development summit approved
  274. 2003-08-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME development summit approved
  275. 2003-08-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Last Nights Meeting
  276. 2003-08-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] scanner needed
  277. 2003-08-27 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] scanner needed
  278. 2003-08-27 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Subject: [hangout] Edit mp3
  279. 2003-08-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [thomas-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: sendmail (SuSE-SA:2003:035)]
  280. 2003-08-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PR for tonight
  281. 2003-08-26 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] PR for tonight
  282. 2003-08-26 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> RE: [hangout] PR for tonight
  283. 2003-08-26 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] PR for tonight
  284. 2003-08-26 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] PR for tonight
  285. 2003-08-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] COnsulting Oppurtunity with US Gov
  286. 2003-08-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> RE: [hangout] No plans to sue Linux companies, says SCO
  287. 2003-08-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] No plans to sue Linux companies, says SCO
  288. 2003-08-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] No plans to sue Linux companies, says SCO
  289. 2003-08-27 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting - Tues Aug 26, 2003
  290. 2003-08-20 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS' materials
  291. 2003-08-17 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Ultraleftism.
  292. 2003-08-17 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  293. 2003-08-16 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  294. 2003-08-16 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  295. 2003-08-15 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  296. 2003-08-14 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path
  297. 2003-08-14 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] IBM, Bankers at Odds Over OS/2 Migration Path

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