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| DATE | 2015-03-05 |
| FROM | Elfen Magix
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 17:59:17 -0800
From: Elfen Magix
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
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OK, lets start with the basics and preliminaries:
1) What kind of program are we starting?
2a) Where is it going to be housed?
2b) Is it a stand alone program or is it piggy backing somebody else's cent=
er? Is the NYC DOE Schools involved?
2c) Are we going to need a license for it?
If we are dealing with children we might have too.
If we are dealing with adults only then we don't have too in the beginning.
Teens are a iffy ground depending on their age.
2d) Will we require fingerprinting and background checks?
Again, if we are dealing with children we might have too.
If we are dealing with adults only then we don't have too in the beginning.
Teens are a iffy ground depending on their age.
3a) What materials do we need to bring in? vs. What materials are already b=
eing supplied?
3b) What in terms of money are we going to require to start?
4) What group of people are we dealing with: rich, poor, ethnic minorities,=
educationally handicapped, etc.?
5) What boro will it be in? Not that it matters, we just have to compensate=
for travel time.
All this has to be done first before one can apply for grants, stating that=
we have the program going and people willing to attend, we need the city/o=
rganization's funding help to get it going. At least you/we can say that th=
rough we have NYXLS and we helped out community centers in the past. We jus=
t need to let it continue with the upkeep and progress of those we helped. =
In that NYXLS can get funding for continued work.
~Fernando.
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On Thu, 3/5/15, Ruben Safir wrote:
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Date: Thursday, March 5, 2015, 5:46 PM
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On
03/05/2015 05:23 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
one more to look at
>
> http://www.nyc.gov/html/ohcd/html/workforce/workforce_investment_board.s=
html
>
> On 03/05/2015 04:39
PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>> My
understanding is that this funding is administered through
the Boro
>> Presidents Offices in
NYC
>>
>>
>> http://www2.ed.gov/policy/elsec/leg/esea02/pg1.html
>>
>> http://www.brighthubeducation.com/teaching-methods-tips/11105-basics-of=
-title-1-funds/
>>
>> another
program
>> http://manhattanbp.nyc.gov/html/budget/community-grants.shtml
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:34:17PM
-0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
>>> On
Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 09:44:54AM -0800, Elfen Magix wrote:
>>>
>>>>
Parent education can mean a lot of things. And a major
problem is
>>>> actually getting
the parents involved in the first place.=20
>>> THIS is a hustle, and Rafi at megazell-at-gmail.com
KNOWS=A0 this huslte
>>> very well
and we, and specifically YOU, can best learn to put all
this
>>> experience together to
work this hustle.=A0 This is not like the lottery.
>>> This has to be worked.=A0 He has a
system that he goes to various PTA
>>> meetings and pitches Linux
educaiton straight to the parents and they
>>> can use their distcrissionary
spending to set up programs for GNU/Linux
>>> education.=A0=20
>>>
>>> That
is why I am wsay that we need to step out of the box, and
learn a
>>> technique to aquring
the available hunding, or a share of it.=A0 But it is
>>> 100% a hustle.=A0 You have to
hustle parents, teachers, principles... and
>>> you have to remain on it through
failures, through the next failure,
>>> until you develope a string of
successes.
>>>
>>> Rafi is gregarious, intelligent
and willing to help up learn this
>>> hustle, which is far more than
learning regulations and law, all of
>>> which we have studied until being
sick.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Getting anyone over the age of
21 is problematic. Many assume that they as
>>>> a parent will do best on their
own and believe their actions with
>>>> the family is what they
require to do and nothing more. So this
>>>> falls into several categories
which I only mention a couple:
>>>> Computer Literacy as a parent
- do they know what they children
>>>> are doing online? do they know
that they are responsible for their
>>>> child's actions? Do thy
know, in short, if their child cyberbullies
>>>> another, that they can go to
jail for their child's actions? Can
>>>> they be sure that content
their child is access is appropriate for
>>>> them? Many do not, just as
much do not care. The problem comes up
>>>> with this fact - a mother
would spend 10 minutes a day with their
>>>> child, a father would spend 15
minutes a day. Is that time enough
>>>> for their child's needs?
No it is not. But the TV gets 6 to 8 hours
>>>> of "parenting" the
child. Today, the TV has been replaced with the
>>>> computer and the Internet. 10
- 15 minutes a day as a parent does
>>>> not undo 6 - 8 hours with the
computer and internet does.
>>> the
programs from the School, as far as i can understnad, teach
PARENT
>>> themselves directly.=A0
Our job is to sell a program acceptable to us to
>>> which they want toparticipate and
then have thempresure the school to
>>> make the program available.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Parenting itself - Is what
your learned from your parents in the
>>>> 70s-2000's good enough for
you to do to you child? What are the
>>>> legalities of your child's
actions affect you? What are your rights
>>>> as a parent? and so on.
>>>> Like I said, getting the
parents involved is a problem. Most work
>>>> and are too tired do anything
after work. Sometimes a weekend
>>>> program can get a few more
parents involved but it wont all of
>>>> them. At best, maybe 10% of
all the children's parents would come
>>>> to an event.=20
>>>
>>> I am
not going to accept this negativism.=A0 rafi gets parents to
the
>>> programs, and even without
that, we will get parents to the programs.
>>>
>>> If we
got 10% that would be HUGE!!!=A0=20
>>>
>>> We
must, without question, get together and learn this hustle
and
>>> network our resources.
>>>
>>>
Schedule a meet up right away.
>>>
>>>>
The only time I had a flood of parents is when I and
>>>> a friend did a CPR &
HIV/AIDS Course, where the children over 10
>>>> were certified for free, but
parents paid $30, we gave a poster
>>>> letter about this course
stating, "When you have=A0 heart attack,
>>>> you cant give CPR to
yourself!" Out of a possible 120 parents, 40
>>>> showed up with their older
kids and teens. By the end of the day,
>>>> they were all CPR certified,
and we generated about $1200 or the
>>>> program that day.
>>>> Parent Education has to be
defined by the program as what? That
>>>> depends on the program. For
us, that means what?
>>>
~Fernando
>>>
>>>
-------------------------------------------- On Wed, 3/4/15,
Ruben
>>> Safir
wrote:
>>>
>>>=A0 Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT]
Community Funding To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
>>>=A0 Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2015,
8:40 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>=A0
Fernando
>>>
>>>=A0 Are you familiar with title 1
funding for community and parent
>>>=A0 education?
>>>
>>>=A0 I
had a bit of a conversation with Megaz last night and I
really
>>>=A0 need to confir with
you about funding ideas and such.? This guy
>>>=A0 has the whole hustle worked
out.? Not just details of programs,
>>>=A0 but also proven methods to
hustle funding.
>>>
>>>=A0 BTW - it seems we need a social
worker.
>>>
>>>=A0 Ruben
>>>
>>>
>
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