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DATE 2015-03-12
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Data and Goliath: Confronting the Surveillance Society

https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2015/03/data-and-goliath/


Secrecy News


Data and Goliath: Confronting the Surveillance Society

Posted on Mar.11, 2015 in Books ,
privacy by Steven Aftergood


Within a remarkably short period of time– less than two decades– all of
us have become immersed in a sea of electronic data collection. Our
purchases, communications, Internet searches, and even our movements all
generate collectible traces that can be recorded, packaged, and sold or
exploited.

Before we have had a chance to collectively think about what this
phenomenal growth in data production and collection means, and to decide
what to do about it, it threatens to become an irreversible feature of
our lives.

In his new book Data and Goliath: The Hidden Battles to Capture Your
Data and Control Your World

(Norton, 2015), author and security technologist Bruce Schneier
aims to forestall that outcome,
and to help recover the possibility of personal privacy before it is
lost or forgotten.

“Privacy is not a luxury that we can only afford in times of safety,” he
writes. “Instead, it’s a value to be preserved. It’s essential for
liberty, autonomy, and human dignity.”

Schneier describes the explosion of personal data and the ways that such
data are harvested by governments and corporations. Somewhat
provocatively, he refers to all types of personal data collection as
“surveillance,” whether the information is gathered for law enforcement
or intelligence purposes, acquired for commercial use, or recorded for
no particular reason at all. Under this sweeping definition, the
National Security Agency and the FBI perform surveillance, but so do
Google, Sears, and the local liquor store.

“Being stripped of privacy is fundamentally dehumanizing, and it makes
no difference whether the surveillance is conducted by an undercover
policeman following us around or by a computer algorithm tracking our
every move,” he writes (p.7). Others would argue that it makes all the
difference in the world, and that while one never wants to be followed
by an undercover policeman, a computer algorithm that helps us drive a
car to our destination might be quite welcome. Schneier, of course,
knows about the benefits of such applications and acknowledges them
later in the book.

Having gained access to classified NSA documents that were leaked by
Edward Snowden and having aided reporters in interpreting them, the
author is particularly exercised by the practice of bulk collection or,
the term he prefers, mass surveillance.

“More than just being ineffective, the NSA’s surveillance efforts have
actually made us less secure,” he says. Indeed, the Privacy and Civil
Liberties Oversight Board found

the “Section 215? program for bulk collection of telephone metadata to
be nearly useless, as well as likely illegal and problematic in other
ways. But by contrast, it also reported
that the “Section 702?
collection program had made a valuable contribution to security.
Schneier does not engage on this point.

Aside from the inherent violations of privacy, Schneier condemns the NSA
practice of stockpiling — instead of repairing — computer software
vulnerabilities and government strong-arming of Internet firms to compel
them to surrender customer data.

His arguments are fleshed out in sufficient detail that readers will
naturally find points to question or to disagree with. “For example,” he
writes, “the NSA targets people who search for information on popular
Internet privacy and anonymity tools” (p. 38). It’s not clear what “NSA
targeting” means in this context. Many people conduct such information
searches with no discernible consequences. In any case, Schneier
positively encourages readers to seek out and adopt privacy enhancing
technologies.

“Surveillance is a tactic of intimidation,” Schneier writes, and “in the
US, we already see the beginnings of [a] chilling effect” (pp. 95-96).
But this seems overwrought. One may curse the NSA, file a lawsuit
against it, advocate reductions in the Agency’s budget, or publish its
Top Secret records online all without fear of reprisal. Lots of people
have done so without being intimidated. (Agency employees who defy their
management are in a more difficult position.) If there is a chilling
effect associated with NSA surveillance, it doesn’t appear to originate
in the NSA.

What is true is that surveillance shapes our awareness and that it can
alter our conduct in obvious or profound ways. Many people will slow
down when driving past a police car or a traffic surveillance camera.
Almost all will modify their speech or their behavior depending on who
is listening or watching. The book is particularly good at exploring the
ramifications of such surveillance-induced changes in the way we behave
and interact, and the risks they pose to an open society.

In the latter portions of the book
, Schneier presents
an action agenda for curbing inappropriate surveillance including steps
that can be taken by government, by corporations, and by concerned
members of the public. The proposals are principled and thoughtful,
though he admits not all are readily achievable.

Schneier’s core objective is to preserve, or to restore, a domain of
personal privacy that is impervious to unwanted intrusion or monitoring.

He acknowledges the necessity of surveillance for valid law enforcement
and intelligence purposes. Among other things, he calls for the
development of privacy-respectful innovations in these areas of security
policy.

“If we can provide law enforcement people with new ways to investigate
crime, they’ll stop demanding that security be subverted for their
benefit.” Similarly, “If we can give governments new ways to collect
data on hostile nations, terrorist groups, and global criminal elements,
they’ll have less need to go to the extreme measures I’ve detailed in
this book…. If we want organizations like the NSA to protect our
privacy, we’re going to have to give them new ways to perform their
intelligence jobs.”

Along these lines, a 2009 study
performed for the Office of
the Director of National Intelligence that was released last month
raised the somewhat fanciful possibility of “crowdsourcing intelligence”:

“The intelligence community has a unique opportunity to engage the
public to help filter and solve a multitude of difficult tasks…. For
example, consider a citizen-driven Presidential Daily Brief and its
potential to enable truly democratic communication to the highest levels
in the United States.” See Mixed Reality
: Geolocation & Portable
Hand-Held Communication Devices, ODNI Summer Hard Problem (SHARP)
Program, 2009.

Anyway, for many people the erosion of personal privacy has arrived
abruptly and overwhelmingly. They might reasonably conclude that the
changes they’ve experienced are beyond their ability to control or
influence. Schneier insists that that is not necessarily the case– but
that the future of privacy depends on how much the public cares about
it. This challenging book explains why privacy matters, how it is
threatened, and what one can do to defend it.

“In the end, we’ll get the privacy we as a society demand and not a bit
more,” he concludes.




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  104. 2015-03-17 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Hackers Meeting Tonight
  105. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Expanding Mozilla Tech
  106. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux now eating at Windows?
  107. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  108. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FSF supports lawsuite against VMWARE for GPL violations
  109. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FSF supports lawsuite against VMWARE for GPL
  110. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FSF supports lawsuite against VMWARE for GPL
  111. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Watch Your Freedom (Because Apple's Not)
  112. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Don't publicly share materials from this course, including your
  113. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS and Rassbery Pie
  114. 2015-03-17 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Hackers Meeting Tonight
  115. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] epub format
  116. 2015-03-17 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS and Rassbery Pie
  117. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  118. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  119. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  120. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  121. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  122. 2015-03-17 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  123. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  124. 2015-03-17 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] epub format
  125. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  126. 2015-03-17 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  127. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  128. 2015-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
  129. 2015-03-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  130. 2015-03-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  131. 2015-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  132. 2015-03-18 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  133. 2015-03-18 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  134. 2015-03-18 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [csconnection-at-computer.org: Only 6 Days Left: Register for FREE
  135. 2015-03-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  136. 2015-03-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  137. 2015-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  138. 2015-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Business and Bank Accounts
  139. 2015-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Radio Show
  140. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Space at LIU for meetings and Instruction
  141. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple Buster
  142. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Movies of the Week
  143. 2015-03-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple Buster
  144. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] put your files everywhere
  145. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Center for Entrepreneurship + Innovation
  146. 2015-03-19 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Radio Show
  147. 2015-03-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Virtualbox (was: Apple crimes)
  148. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Radio Show
  149. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graduate School and Oppurtunities
  150. 2015-03-20 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [jkeen-at-verizon.net: 2nd New York City Perl Hackathon: hold the
  151. 2015-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mozilla Linux needs help **no shit**
  152. 2015-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Sunday Brunch and Journal Club Meeting
  153. 2015-03-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MTA Crimes
  154. 2015-03-21 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MTA Crimes
  155. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  156. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Steam Games
  157. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  158. 2015-03-22 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  159. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  160. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  161. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  162. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  163. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  164. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  165. 2015-03-22 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  166. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  167. 2015-03-22 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Steam Games
  168. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  169. 2015-03-22 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Steam Games
  170. 2015-03-22 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [jkeen-at-verizon.net: New York City Perl Hackathon 2015: Registration
  171. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  172. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  173. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  174. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Stop and frisk
  175. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Cromwell Linux Pages
  176. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  177. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  178. 2015-03-22 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  179. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Stop and frisk
  180. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  181. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Cromwell Linux Pages
  182. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Kernel Hacking text for free
  183. 2015-03-23 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [gabor-at-szabgab.com: [Perlweekly] #191 - Hackathon after Hackathon]
  184. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Tuesday Night
  185. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Announcement II
  186. 2015-03-23 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Announcement II
  187. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Announcement II
  188. 2015-03-23 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Tuesday Night
  189. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Tuesday Night
  190. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  191. 2015-03-24 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  192. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Printed journal
  193. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  194. 2015-03-24 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  195. 2015-03-24 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Printed journal
  196. 2015-03-24 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  197. 2015-03-24 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  198. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  199. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  200. 2015-03-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  201. 2015-03-24 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Raspberry Pi Articles
  202. 2015-03-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  203. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  204. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  205. 2015-03-24 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  206. 2015-03-24 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  207. 2015-03-24 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  208. 2015-03-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  209. 2015-03-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  210. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  211. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  212. 2015-03-24 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  213. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Threaded Programming example
  214. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [LIU Comp Sci] GNU/Linux 1
  215. 2015-03-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  216. 2015-03-25 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [LIU Comp Sci] GNU/Linux 1
  217. 2015-03-25 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  218. 2015-03-25 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  219. 2015-03-25 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [LIU Comp Sci] GNU/Linux 1
  220. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  221. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  222. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  223. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Logo?
  224. 2015-03-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  225. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Java Crimes
  226. 2015-03-25 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  227. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  228. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Threads and Speed
  229. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] jobs jobs
  230. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Earning Money
  231. 2015-03-25 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: [opensuse] No /etc/sysconfig/kernel installed in 13.2.
  232. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Welcome Back Brooklyn / Next Steps
  233. 2015-03-25 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Threads and Speed
  234. 2015-03-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Kernel Learning Resource - #1
  235. 2015-03-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  236. 2015-03-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bash Shell tricks
  237. 2015-03-27 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [opensuse] On Mulitboot with UEFI
  238. 2015-03-27 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYC Tech Council & STEM Funding
  239. 2015-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [opensuse] On Mulitboot with UEFI
  240. 2015-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Jobs
  241. 2015-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] JOUNAL MEETING AT 10AM TOMORROW
  242. 2015-03-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HW 4.18 Problem
  243. 2015-03-31 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] buying a new home
  244. 2015-03-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel
  245. 2015-03-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel
  246. 2015-03-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel
  247. 2015-03-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel
  248. 2015-03-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel

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