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DATE | 2015-03-06 |
FROM | prmarino1@gmail.com
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
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From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Fri Mar 6 01:21:52 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) id 99FB31612F9; Fri, 6 Mar 2015 01:21:51 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 28) id 819371612FB; Fri, 6 Mar 2015 01:21:51 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A661612F9 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2015 01:21:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by iecat20 with SMTP id at20so29691416iec.6 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2015 22:21:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:date :subject:from:in-reply-to:references:to; bh=CRlibUzVLl1gRBbp44nzM8iZNhpjaAE1KMiUL3Osqpg=; b=D81fHHerVIb3tl6e8fg7Aw/2GJwDboAU1ML1rlZeNBXHMBrVJ1bSH9fxZY/G3NnKHo fSYEh5bYFg66h6cQjvmONHZuZDGeePlXkdOmXjfOQomznyK5STBo4hZ4msE4ARjADXwp AO/IErizyDmJa8TlNOxppH3U2whOImnh2HYcW5Zs3vaJHCpv81QC7unmZ3wNiWKKU8cB Obj4hVYH5bEnkzwqHrxKBHDYPgb2gwhJWWoxpeegkNfCIKlxLB1VuLAqsamYi4yr0T8m lbVzkUOEPc2HRSEqziFNYSw1Gg3XEsD/qWprAe5GdeWufLt7BAEYnYxbvG3w18Lnplwj MXwA== X-Received: by 10.107.41.83 with SMTP id p80mr25575363iop.54.1425622886450; Thu, 05 Mar 2015 22:21:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([172.56.13.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mi3sm14353763igb.13.2015.03.05.22.21.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Mar 2015 22:21:25 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: BlackBerry Email (10.2.1.3442) Message-ID: <20150306062124.5927060.19277.4136-at-gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 01:21:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding From: prmarino1-at-gmail.com In-Reply-To: <54F928EE.3060209-at-panix.com> References: <1425607157.58311.YahooMailBasic-at-web121202.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <54F928EE.3060209-at-panix.com> To: hangout-at-nylxs.com, hangout-at-nylxs.com Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com [NYLXS: HANGOUT] X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailing-list: hangout-at-nylxs.com Precedence: list List-Id: NYLXS General Discussion Forum List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe:
Yes Rubin is right and I can answer many of these questions=E2=80=8E but no= t all off the top of my head however many of them are too complex to answer= but a single email and are far easier to discuss.
One I can answer as an example just to give you an idea of the complexity i= nvolved is 2d.
Unless you have been previously background checked by the DOE an=E2=80=8Ey = one who directly works with the kids if it is funded by the DOE will have t= o get s full FBI fingerprint background check. That said and this is where = it gets complicated is if some one has been arrested in the past it does no= t necessarily rule them out. But it is something that if some one does have= a criminal background including things which are excluded from the require= ments to report merits a private conversation in advance; because it is not= uncommon for misdemeanors, dismissed cases, and even sealed records to pop= up on them because of a clerks mistake so confidential and frank discussio= ns of any criminal record should be discussed. In most cases reporting thin= g which are not required is favorable in comparison to them finding out bec= ause of a clerks mistake. This is because if it's not pertinent to the back= ground check parameters and you didn't report it and it pops up it raises q= uestions, but if you reported it that shows honesty which depending on the = nature of the incident may overshadow any past indecressions.=C2=A0 The important thing is that we know in advance so we can evaluate if we can= put you through the process without risk of hurting our reputation as a gr= oup.
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. =C2=A0 Original Message =C2=A0 From: Ruben Safir Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 23:11 To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Reply To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
Good questions and as soon as you come to a time and place to have a meeting with Rafi, we can begin to answer these questions.
Did you get his email address?
Ruben
PS - Freilich Um Purim to you as well!
On 03/05/2015 08:59 PM, Elfen Magix wrote: > OK, lets start with the basics and preliminaries: > > 1) What kind of program are we starting? > > 2a) Where is it going to be housed? > > 2b) Is it a stand alone program or is it piggy backing somebody else's ce= nter? Is the NYC DOE Schools involved? > > 2c) Are we going to need a license for it? > If we are dealing with children we might have too. > If we are dealing with adults only then we don't have too in the beginnin= g. > Teens are a iffy ground depending on their age. > > 2d) Will we require fingerprinting and background checks? > Again, if we are dealing with children we might have too. > If we are dealing with adults only then we don't have too in the beginnin= g. > Teens are a iffy ground depending on their age. > > 3a) What materials do we need to bring in? vs. What materials are already= being supplied? > > 3b) What in terms of money are we going to require to start? > > 4) What group of people are we dealing with: rich, poor, ethnic minoritie= s, educationally handicapped, etc.? > > 5) What boro will it be in? Not that it matters, we just have to compensa= te for travel time. > > All this has to be done first before one can apply for grants, stating th= at we have the program going and people willing to attend, we need the city= /organization's funding help to get it going. At least you/we can say that = through we have NYXLS and we helped out community centers in the past. We j= ust need to let it continue with the upkeep and progress of those we helped= . In that NYXLS can get funding for continued work. > > ~Fernando. > > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Thu, 3/5/15, Ruben Safir wrote: > > Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding > To: hangout-at-nylxs.com > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2015, 5:46 PM >=20 >=20 > On > 03/05/2015 05:23 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > one more to look at > > > > http://www.nyc.gov/html/ohcd/html/workforce/workforce_investment_board.= shtml > > > > On 03/05/2015 04:39 > PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > >> My > understanding is that this funding is administered through > the Boro > >> Presidents Offices in > NYC > >> > >> > >> http://www2.ed.gov/policy/elsec/leg/esea02/pg1.html > >> > >> http://www.brighthubeducation.com/teaching-methods-tips/11105-basics-o= f-title-1-funds/ > >> > >> another > program > >> http://manhattanbp.nyc.gov/html/budget/community-grants.shtml > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:34:17PM > -0500, Ruben Safir wrote: > >>> On > Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 09:44:54AM -0800, Elfen Magix wrote: > >>> > >>>> > Parent education can mean a lot of things. And a major > problem is > >>>> actually getting > the parents involved in the first place.=20 > >>> THIS is a hustle, and Rafi at megazell-at-gmail.com > KNOWS this huslte > >>> very well > and we, and specifically YOU, can best learn to put all > this > >>> experience together to > work this hustle. This is not like the lottery. > >>> This has to be worked. He has a > system that he goes to various PTA > >>> meetings and pitches Linux > educaiton straight to the parents and they > >>> can use their distcrissionary > spending to set up programs for GNU/Linux > >>> education.=20 > >>> > >>> That > is why I am wsay that we need to step out of the box, and > learn a > >>> technique to aquring > the available hunding, or a share of it. But it is > >>> 100% a hustle. You have to > hustle parents, teachers, principles... and > >>> you have to remain on it through > failures, through the next failure, > >>> until you develope a string of > successes. > >>> > >>> Rafi is gregarious, intelligent > and willing to help up learn this > >>> hustle, which is far more than > learning regulations and law, all of > >>> which we have studied until being > sick. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Getting anyone over the age of > 21 is problematic. Many assume that they as > >>>> a parent will do best on their > own and believe their actions with > >>>> the family is what they > require to do and nothing more. So this > >>>> falls into several categories > which I only mention a couple: > >>>> Computer Literacy as a parent > - do they know what they children > >>>> are doing online? do they know > that they are responsible for their > >>>> child's actions? Do thy > know, in short, if their child cyberbullies > >>>> another, that they can go to > jail for their child's actions? Can > >>>> they be sure that content > their child is access is appropriate for > >>>> them? Many do not, just as > much do not care. The problem comes up > >>>> with this fact - a mother > would spend 10 minutes a day with their > >>>> child, a father would spend 15 > minutes a day. Is that time enough > >>>> for their child's needs? > No it is not. But the TV gets 6 to 8 hours > >>>> of "parenting" the > child. Today, the TV has been replaced with the > >>>> computer and the Internet. 10 > - 15 minutes a day as a parent does > >>>> not undo 6 - 8 hours with the > computer and internet does. > >>> the > programs from the School, as far as i can understnad, teach > PARENT > >>> themselves directly.=20 > Our job is to sell a program acceptable to us to > >>> which they want toparticipate and > then have thempresure the school to > >>> make the program available. > >>> > >>> > >>>> Parenting itself - Is what > your learned from your parents in the > >>>> 70s-2000's good enough for > you to do to you child? What are the > >>>> legalities of your child's > actions affect you? What are your rights > >>>> as a parent? and so on. > >>>> Like I said, getting the > parents involved is a problem. Most work > >>>> and are too tired do anything > after work. Sometimes a weekend > >>>> program can get a few more > parents involved but it wont all of > >>>> them. At best, maybe 10% of > all the children's parents would come > >>>> to an event.=20 > >>> > >>> I am > not going to accept this negativism. rafi gets parents to > the > >>> programs, and even without > that, we will get parents to the programs. > >>> > >>> If we > got 10% that would be HUGE!!!=20 > >>> > >>> We > must, without question, get together and learn this hustle > and > >>> network our resources. > >>> > >>> > Schedule a meet up right away. > >>> > >>>> > The only time I had a flood of parents is when I and > >>>> a friend did a CPR & > HIV/AIDS Course, where the children over 10 > >>>> were certified for free, but > parents paid $30, we gave a poster > >>>> letter about this course > stating, "When you have heart attack, > >>>> you cant give CPR to > yourself!" Out of a possible 120 parents, 40 > >>>> showed up with their older > kids and teens. By the end of the day, > >>>> they were all CPR certified, > and we generated about $1200 or the > >>>> program that day. > >>>> Parent Education has to be > defined by the program as what? That > >>>> depends on the program. For > us, that means what? > >>> > ~Fernando > >>> > >>> > -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 3/4/15, > Ruben > >>> Safir > wrote: > >>> > >>> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] > Community Funding To: hangout-at-nylxs.com > >>> Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2015, > 8:40 AM > >>> > >>> > >>>=20 > Fernando > >>> > >>> Are you familiar with title 1 > funding for community and parent > >>> education? > >>> > >>> I > had a bit of a conversation with Megaz last night and I > really > >>> need to confir with > you about funding ideas and such.? This guy > >>> has the whole hustle worked > out.? Not just details of programs, > >>> but also proven methods to > hustle funding. > >>> > >>> BTW - it seems we need a social > worker. > >>> > >>> Ruben > >>> > >>> > > >=20 >=20 > ~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.nyc.gov/html/nycha/html/community/rees-adult-education.shtml >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >
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