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Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
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Yes Rubin is right and I can answer many of these questions=E2=80=8E but no=
t all off the top of my head however many of them are too complex to answer=
but a single email and are far easier to discuss.
One I can answer as an example just to give you an idea of the complexity i=
nvolved is 2d.
Unless you have been previously background checked by the DOE an=E2=80=8Ey =
one who directly works with the kids if it is funded by the DOE will have t=
o get s full FBI fingerprint background check. That said and this is where =
it gets complicated is if some one has been arrested in the past it does no=
t necessarily rule them out. But it is something that if some one does have=
a criminal background including things which are excluded from the require=
ments to report merits a private conversation in advance; because it is not=
uncommon for misdemeanors, dismissed cases, and even sealed records to pop=
up on them because of a clerks mistake so confidential and frank discussio=
ns of any criminal record should be discussed. In most cases reporting thin=
g which are not required is favorable in comparison to them finding out bec=
ause of a clerks mistake. This is because if it's not pertinent to the back=
ground check parameters and you didn't report it and it pops up it raises q=
uestions, but if you reported it that shows honesty which depending on the =
nature of the incident may overshadow any past indecressions.=C2=A0
The important thing is that we know in advance so we can evaluate if we can=
put you through the process without risk of hurting our reputation as a gr=
oup.
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
=C2=A0 Original Message =C2=A0
From: Ruben Safir
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 23:11
To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Reply To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
Good questions and as soon as you come to a time and place to have a
meeting with Rafi, we can begin to answer these questions.
Did you get his email address?
Ruben
PS - Freilich Um Purim to you as well!
On 03/05/2015 08:59 PM, Elfen Magix wrote:
> OK, lets start with the basics and preliminaries:
>
> 1) What kind of program are we starting?
>
> 2a) Where is it going to be housed?
>
> 2b) Is it a stand alone program or is it piggy backing somebody else's ce=
nter? Is the NYC DOE Schools involved?
>
> 2c) Are we going to need a license for it?
> If we are dealing with children we might have too.
> If we are dealing with adults only then we don't have too in the beginnin=
g.
> Teens are a iffy ground depending on their age.
>
> 2d) Will we require fingerprinting and background checks?
> Again, if we are dealing with children we might have too.
> If we are dealing with adults only then we don't have too in the beginnin=
g.
> Teens are a iffy ground depending on their age.
>
> 3a) What materials do we need to bring in? vs. What materials are already=
being supplied?
>
> 3b) What in terms of money are we going to require to start?
>
> 4) What group of people are we dealing with: rich, poor, ethnic minoritie=
s, educationally handicapped, etc.?
>
> 5) What boro will it be in? Not that it matters, we just have to compensa=
te for travel time.
>
> All this has to be done first before one can apply for grants, stating th=
at we have the program going and people willing to attend, we need the city=
/organization's funding help to get it going. At least you/we can say that =
through we have NYXLS and we helped out community centers in the past. We j=
ust need to let it continue with the upkeep and progress of those we helped=
. In that NYXLS can get funding for continued work.
>
> ~Fernando.
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 3/5/15, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
> To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Date: Thursday, March 5, 2015, 5:46 PM
>=20
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> On
> 03/05/2015 05:23 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >
> one more to look at
> >
> > http://www.nyc.gov/html/ohcd/html/workforce/workforce_investment_board.=
shtml
> >
> > On 03/05/2015 04:39
> PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >> My
> understanding is that this funding is administered through
> the Boro
> >> Presidents Offices in
> NYC
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www2.ed.gov/policy/elsec/leg/esea02/pg1.html
> >>
> >> http://www.brighthubeducation.com/teaching-methods-tips/11105-basics-o=
f-title-1-funds/
> >>
> >> another
> program
> >> http://manhattanbp.nyc.gov/html/budget/community-grants.shtml
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:34:17PM
> -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >>> On
> Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 09:44:54AM -0800, Elfen Magix wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> Parent education can mean a lot of things. And a major
> problem is
> >>>> actually getting
> the parents involved in the first place.=20
> >>> THIS is a hustle, and Rafi at megazell-at-gmail.com
> KNOWS this huslte
> >>> very well
> and we, and specifically YOU, can best learn to put all
> this
> >>> experience together to
> work this hustle. This is not like the lottery.
> >>> This has to be worked. He has a
> system that he goes to various PTA
> >>> meetings and pitches Linux
> educaiton straight to the parents and they
> >>> can use their distcrissionary
> spending to set up programs for GNU/Linux
> >>> education.=20
> >>>
> >>> That
> is why I am wsay that we need to step out of the box, and
> learn a
> >>> technique to aquring
> the available hunding, or a share of it. But it is
> >>> 100% a hustle. You have to
> hustle parents, teachers, principles... and
> >>> you have to remain on it through
> failures, through the next failure,
> >>> until you develope a string of
> successes.
> >>>
> >>> Rafi is gregarious, intelligent
> and willing to help up learn this
> >>> hustle, which is far more than
> learning regulations and law, all of
> >>> which we have studied until being
> sick.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Getting anyone over the age of
> 21 is problematic. Many assume that they as
> >>>> a parent will do best on their
> own and believe their actions with
> >>>> the family is what they
> require to do and nothing more. So this
> >>>> falls into several categories
> which I only mention a couple:
> >>>> Computer Literacy as a parent
> - do they know what they children
> >>>> are doing online? do they know
> that they are responsible for their
> >>>> child's actions? Do thy
> know, in short, if their child cyberbullies
> >>>> another, that they can go to
> jail for their child's actions? Can
> >>>> they be sure that content
> their child is access is appropriate for
> >>>> them? Many do not, just as
> much do not care. The problem comes up
> >>>> with this fact - a mother
> would spend 10 minutes a day with their
> >>>> child, a father would spend 15
> minutes a day. Is that time enough
> >>>> for their child's needs?
> No it is not. But the TV gets 6 to 8 hours
> >>>> of "parenting" the
> child. Today, the TV has been replaced with the
> >>>> computer and the Internet. 10
> - 15 minutes a day as a parent does
> >>>> not undo 6 - 8 hours with the
> computer and internet does.
> >>> the
> programs from the School, as far as i can understnad, teach
> PARENT
> >>> themselves directly.=20
> Our job is to sell a program acceptable to us to
> >>> which they want toparticipate and
> then have thempresure the school to
> >>> make the program available.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Parenting itself - Is what
> your learned from your parents in the
> >>>> 70s-2000's good enough for
> you to do to you child? What are the
> >>>> legalities of your child's
> actions affect you? What are your rights
> >>>> as a parent? and so on.
> >>>> Like I said, getting the
> parents involved is a problem. Most work
> >>>> and are too tired do anything
> after work. Sometimes a weekend
> >>>> program can get a few more
> parents involved but it wont all of
> >>>> them. At best, maybe 10% of
> all the children's parents would come
> >>>> to an event.=20
> >>>
> >>> I am
> not going to accept this negativism. rafi gets parents to
> the
> >>> programs, and even without
> that, we will get parents to the programs.
> >>>
> >>> If we
> got 10% that would be HUGE!!!=20
> >>>
> >>> We
> must, without question, get together and learn this hustle
> and
> >>> network our resources.
> >>>
> >>>
> Schedule a meet up right away.
> >>>
> >>>>
> The only time I had a flood of parents is when I and
> >>>> a friend did a CPR &
> HIV/AIDS Course, where the children over 10
> >>>> were certified for free, but
> parents paid $30, we gave a poster
> >>>> letter about this course
> stating, "When you have heart attack,
> >>>> you cant give CPR to
> yourself!" Out of a possible 120 parents, 40
> >>>> showed up with their older
> kids and teens. By the end of the day,
> >>>> they were all CPR certified,
> and we generated about $1200 or the
> >>>> program that day.
> >>>> Parent Education has to be
> defined by the program as what? That
> >>>> depends on the program. For
> us, that means what?
> >>>
> ~Fernando
> >>>
> >>>
> -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 3/4/15,
> Ruben
> >>> Safir
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT]
> Community Funding To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> >>> Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2015,
> 8:40 AM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>=20
> Fernando
> >>>
> >>> Are you familiar with title 1
> funding for community and parent
> >>> education?
> >>>
> >>> I
> had a bit of a conversation with Megaz last night and I
> really
> >>> need to confir with
> you about funding ideas and such.? This guy
> >>> has the whole hustle worked
> out.? Not just details of programs,
> >>> but also proven methods to
> hustle funding.
> >>>
> >>> BTW - it seems we need a social
> worker.
> >>>
> >>> Ruben
> >>>
> >>>
> >
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