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DATE | 2015-03-27 |
FROM | Ruben
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SUBJECT | Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [opensuse] On Mulitboot with UEFI
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From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Fri Mar 27 14:27:24 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) id A7836161308; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:27:23 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 28) id 955A416130D; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:27:23 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Received: from mail-qg0-f42.google.com (mail-qg0-f42.google.com [209.85.192.42]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8951C161308 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by qgfa8 with SMTP id a8so134079703qgf.0 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 11:26:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cnf9U9UBGIWO1CVeVMYaK30z5gAMUGvQ+M/BDPrSDIA=; b=cuict+wD8qCCl3KyaDZ/D/aAztWIqvV/hMQ6YsMbCO9cL1BKfi67aAhCjgh/WOhE2a /VRvmw8a7d+Yd8Vt7sdOl3bvP9Z3ZFGq+GW9pTuRvJWAMKa2dqmGI1TsVDfusrO2I/Qa Qk2h/W06pu6LrZ7kiewtKIEijfCLjPrZPXOF5dC9XLVb6FidhrHJ3JynOZMJmzmp4XLR LGKgLUBJ2QZ30YO3leORPRIAgvqdLPUoWjHBn9mJ/8KANMWI30J9R7oYS1N+/isbfmci VUGVbRi5keLRz1D/FyXUqagxqyHQZull9UV5EvOTrAaAo3Brqdxuk+q7TwRWjBLwyTFG Hslw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlQpi2+8xfFABq/bAoELHVRxc1eP/I7ucnwD4PLM9POkdpUzjFVps9qORegC1f+hnv4A8By X-Received: by 10.229.68.136 with SMTP id v8mr27064949qci.16.1427480818602; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 11:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.19] ([96.57.23.82]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 23sm1971349qkr.41.2015.03.27.11.26.57 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 27 Mar 2015 11:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5515A0F1.4020207-at-my.liu.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:26:57 -0400 From: Ruben User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: opensuse-at-opensuse.org, Hangout Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [opensuse] On Mulitboot with UEFI References: <55155268.8030802-at-antonaylward.com> <5515559F.1040908-at-dodin.org> <55159D32.4000304-at-earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <55159D32.4000304-at-earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com [NYLXS: HANGOUT] X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailing-list: hangout-at-nylxs.com Precedence: list List-Id: NYLXS General Discussion Forum List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe:
On 03/27/2015 02:10 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > Chris Murphy composed on 2015-03-27 11:04 (UTC-0600): > >> It's sorta like sport to clobber another distro's bootloading when doing an >> installation. > Grub2 devs have a strong legacy of inviting this through their virtual > insistence on installing to MBR on BIOS systems. There's no justification to > touch any but / partitions with boot paraphernalia on a BIOS system when / is > where bootloader goes. I can't see how that attitude can't have affected its > behavior with UEFI.
This was nearly incomprehensible but...
where are you putting the partition table. Your saying the grub developers insist on using the MBR in root, especially with a BIOS system.
Then you are saying that you don't need to touch root partitions with a MBR ?? Is that what "boot paraphernalia" because the boot loader is there.
Now the last sentence is a double negative.
I have no idea what your writing here.
I will say this. If you purchase a stock system off the shelf and wipe out the hard drive, including the installed UEFI boot loader and /boot partition, then you need to install everything with linux working stuff. And that is actually what I recommend because I don't trust the propriety boot loaders. They can spy on you among other things.
The permutations now with UEFI is broad. It is really a big PIA. You just keep hoping it goes away, but it doesn't because it is backed by industrial consortium(s) who hate your access to systems. It solves NOTHING. All the key parts of it that needed to be solved were solved with gpart.
Distros approaches to solving the multiple hurdles is indeed different for each one. You can write a book on this topic and it does not go away with a wave of the hand.... it doesn't.
Ruben
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