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Subject: Re: GPL complaints
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 03:56:08 -0400
From: Ruben Safir
To: Mat Enders , hangout-at-nylxs.com
CC: Ruben Safir , Tony , rms-at-gnu.org,
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 01:32:04AM -0400, Mat Enders wrote:
> You are entitled to your opinion as am I. I will repeat what I have always
> said regarding the GPL. It is an oppressive viral license. Just because
> you agree with its' style of oppressiveness does not make it
> non-oppressive. Your comparison of me stating the obvious oppressiveness
> of the GPL to terrorist is not only idiotic it is offensive. The GPL
> forces you to publish all changes you make to the code, that is restrictive
> plain and simple.
No, your fundementally wrong but you exploit the benifits that others
have laid out for you.
It is the viceral attack that you have which is so disturbing.
There will be no Free Software in the future on the track we are
currently on. Tools and data are increasingly locked down.
Should we start going over it in detail in order to demonstrate the
enormously negtive affect that Apple and google have levied by
exploiting and doing an end run around of the guarantees is that the
It is OBVIOUS to any individual that rights that you want for yourself
and which you are not willing to guarantee to others are not rights at
all. Freedom, in this case in speach and code, along with the privacies
that it underpins, is something you GIVE, not take.
PS - you use gmail??? Don't you care about your privacy at all?
> Have a good life.
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > I'm listening to your show and it is so upsetting to hear your attack on
> > the GPL.
> > In light of the overwhelming abuse of software vendors, the attack on
> > the GPL is outragous.
> > Those that use non gpled software because they think the GPL are
> > oppressive just haven't been keeping track of what is happening.
> > Commercial software on the free software stack is riddled with drm,
> > tracking software and are tieing down users across the board and the
> > ventures have abused users to unprecedented levels. You can't do shit
> > with android any longer without it tracking your every minute and we've
> > completely lost our ability to control our data.
> > Your hostility for the GPL is that it is bad for businesses? MY
> > interests and these vendors interests part. On non GPLed data, they own
> > you lock stock and barrel. The opinion that the GPL is restrictive is
> > not more logical than terrorists complaint that there religious is being
> > stepped on.
> > Get your head out of your straightened out.
> > Ruben
> > in ref:
> > http://smlr.us/?page_id=72
> > http://media.blubrry.com/smlr/archive.org/download/SMLRE146/SMLR-E146.ogg
> Mathew E. Enders
> "Where once Samba and Apache sold Linux to the world they are now just part
> of the plumbing. But that's OK, plumbers make good money."
> --Jeremy Allison
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