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DATE | 2015-03-17 |
FROM | Rick Moen
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
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From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Tue Mar 17 15:58:59 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) id 678D11612FE; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 28) id 55706161302; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Received: from linuxmafia.com (linuxmafia.COM [198.144.195.186]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3151612FE for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rick by linuxmafia.com with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1YXxdJ-0003B6-8y for hangout-at-nylxs.com; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 12:58:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 12:58:33 -0700 From: Rick Moen To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes Message-ID: <20150317195833.GZ23366-at-linuxmafia.com> References: <5501FC22.5040509-at-panix.com> <20150317114202.GS23366-at-linuxmafia.com> <55083496.40405-at-panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55083496.40405-at-panix.com> Organization: If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already. X-Mas: Bah humbug. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: rick-at-linuxmafia.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on linuxmafia.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com [NYLXS: HANGOUT] X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailing-list: hangout-at-nylxs.com Precedence: list List-Id: NYLXS General Discussion Forum List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe:
Quoting Ruben Safir (mrbrklyn-at-panix.com):
> Yes, I do get it,
Ah, so the extreme rhetorical overkill and grossly misleading wording was _deliberate_. OK.
> it means that Apple is fucking around with objective C++ and should > just assign it to the FSF so that they can put the entire object C++ > branch under the GPL3 so that they have primary legal standing in the > case of lawsuites.
Oh, so FSF is entitled to own what Apple creates using its own efforts? Am I entitled to own everything you create using your own efforts? If so, please send signed, dated copyright assignment via first class mail. Thank you.
Is Linus Torvalds entitled to gain copyright ownership over everyone else's code contributions to the Linux kernel? Are you intending to call everyone who fails to do so a criminal?
Methinks you have a truly bizarre notion of what is a 'crime' and should consider setting up your own country somewhere else before you get in trouble with this one's legal system.
> Copyleft protections are worth shit if your not willing to sue over > them which CLEARLY what Apple wants, not just over this, but > historically for a long time on multiple fronts.
So, by that same logic, that is also what every Linux kernel code contributor other than Linus Torvalds wants? And all of the many copyright enforcement lawsuits that have succeeded in numerous jurisdictions filed by a variety of Linux kernel stakeholders are in fact impossible and must not have existed? Did I get that right?
Logic, Rubin. Learn it before you die.
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