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DATE 2015-03-15
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Kernel Mailing List Social Protocols
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On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 05:42:59AM -0400, prmarino1-at-gmail.com wrote:
>
> Rubin
> The incident I was referring to was before the systemd issues.
>
> Also let's not forget Adam stopped participating in our group because of what he thought was a physical threat agains him by one of the members of the list. He asked us repeatedly to do something about it and because no actions were taken we lost a very valuable member of the group. That happened over a decade ago. Furthermore the person who the complaint was about was not the most effective member of the group and left the group in an angry huff a year or two after that.
>

Adam reached out to me not that long ago, now that you mention it.

Adam, BTW, did not leave because of that thread. and there was
mediation happening.

It just wasn't on the mailing list.

But FWIW, the list moderator, such as he is, eventually took action ;)


:)


> This is a serious issue the free software community and the open-source community has allowed to grow for far too long.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
> ?? Original Message ??
> From: Ruben
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 05:13
> To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Reply To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Kernel Mailing List Social Protocols
>
>
> On 03/10/2015 01:19 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> > Rubin
> > Have you actually read it there is no statement of censorship at all
> > in fact the reverse its basically states that inevitably occasionally
> > frustrations will run high because every one is trying to do their
> > best to enhance the kernel as much as possible; however if you feel
> > some one is being excessively abusive or threatening report it so they
> > can attempt to resolve the situation.
> >
> > I agree with it there have been a lot of conversations which get out
> > of hand on some lists which do go as far as physical threats. lets
> > face it the majority of the Linux community are passionate about the
> > technology and that breads a certain level of necessary debate which
> > can often get heated. Evin I have to admit on ocassion Ive been know
> > to get so frustrated on a list with people who were out of their
> > league in a conversation but claimed to be an authority on the subject
> > that I've filliped out and started making fun of them. and lord knows
> > how many technical flame wars which had enough real technical merits
> > on the opposing side that i couldn't just dismiss them but got
> > extremely heated during the course of the debate. These thing happen
> > and are never eliminate that from the community nor should we want to
> > because often those debates lead to better results than one individual
> > could come up with on their own.
> >
> > That said occasionally you run across a few people who are just
> > mentally ill and use our community as a venue to feed their insanity
> > or get off on their rage issues, and add nothing productive to the
> > process. That is unacceptable
> > and we as a community need to filter those people out so we can get
> > meaningful productive work done. Equally as important we also need to
> > be able to recognize and help people who are use to scientific debates
> > to form a thicker skin about it if they are over reacting to comments
> > made during a debate. To accomplish both of these task we need people
> > to report if they feel they are being verbally assaulted or physically
> > threatened for no reliant reason and look at each incident and
> > evaluate it because part of the community has gotten out of hand.
> >
> > For example a few years ago while at a bar a member of NYBUG asked me
> > to come out side and have a cigaret with him, as soon as we got out
> > side he started pressing his finger into my chest and treated me never
> > call him on his bull shit ever again.
>
> I've had my share of run ins with people from the BSD group and I think
> ... I don't know. there is something deeply wrong with most of them.
> It is hard to create a community and even harder in NYC, for reasons
> I've never understood.
>
> We grew up with pick up baseball and sports and I can't get people to
> come to meetings that are in their best interest, and only the craziest
> ones show up...
>
>
>
> > Now those weren't quite the
> > words he used but it definitely was a threat. Considering where and
> > how I grew up his threats didn't scare me a bit they only made me very
> > angry and still do, but I can see how others would be scared because
> > he could be considered by many a physically imposing and the setup
> > seemed a little too practiced I am positive he has done it to others
> > as well. now some people may be ask what started this well essentially
> > he was telling a story about something that happened at one of the NYC
> > Linux world expos where he made himself sound like the only sane
> > person involved and was badmouthing a lot of good people. I guess he
> > forgot I was there involved in the entire situation and a know it was
> > the exact opposite of what he claimed. As a result I didn't insult him
> > but I did verbally knock him down a peg by telling the group some of
> > what really happens and told him to stop insulting friend of mine he
> > doesn't really know. his response was to get me someplace with no one
> > around and threaten physical violence.
> > This kind of behavior is nuts and has no place in our community!
> >
>
> Anyway, this is still just a means to set up rules to confine the
> brewing conflicts that have spilled into the kernels list and nearly
> everywhere else in the GNU/Linux world as systemd proponents
> relentlessly look for levers to turn.
>
>
> >
> > here is the actual statement in
> > https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/CodeOfConflict?id=b0bc65729070b9cbdbb53ff042984a3c545a0e34
> > "
> >
> > Code of Conflict
> > ----------------
> >
> > The Linux kernel development effort is a very personal process compared
> > to "traditional" ways of developing software. Your code and ideas
> > behind it will be carefully reviewed, often resulting in critique and
> > criticism. The review will almost always require improvements to the
> > code before it can be included in the kernel. Know that this happens
> > because everyone involved wants to see the best possible solution for
> > the overall success of Linux. This development process has been proven
> > to create the most robust operating system kernel ever, and we do not
> > want to do anything to cause the quality of submission and eventual
> > result to ever decrease.
> >
> > If however, anyone feels personally abused, threatened, or otherwise
> > uncomfortable due to this process, that is not acceptable. If so,
> > please contact the Linux Foundation's Technical Advisory Board at
> > , or the individual members, and they
> > will work to resolve the issue to the best of their ability. For more
> > information on who is on the Technical Advisory Board and what their
> > role is, please see:
> > http://www.linuxfoundation.org/programs/advisory-councils/tab
> >
> > As a reviewer of code, please strive to keep things civil and focused on
> > the technical issues involved. We are all humans, and frustrations can
> > be high on both sides of the process. Try to keep in mind the immortal
> > words of Bill and Ted, "Be excellent to each other."
> >
> >
> > "
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:23 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >> https://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/158-jim-zemlin/815318-on-the-linux-kernels-code-of-conflict
> >>
> >> I don't buy it. the last thing we need is thought police on the Linux
> >> Kernel list...
> >>
> >> Last week, 60 kernel developers signed off on a small patch
> >> called
> >> the Code of Conflict that provides guidelines for discourse in the
> >> kernel community and outlines a path for mediation if someone feels
> >> abused or threatened. The code was written by kernel maintainer Greg
> >> K-H, supported by many of the most prolific maintainers and developers
> >> of the kernel community and accepted into the kernel by Linus Torvalds
> >> himself.
> >>
> >> The Linux Foundation is happy to see these guidelines and is supportive
> >> of the mediation process. We will work directly with the Linux
> >> Foundation Technical Advisory Board to provide whatever support they
> >> need in implementing this process. We believe the guidelines are
> >> grounded in the unique culture and process that makes Linux so
> >> successful. Conflict over code will and should happen. But the Code is
> >> very clear that personal insults or abuse are not welcome.
> >>
> >> It???s no secret that the software industry would like to see more
> >> diversity. The Linux Foundation believes in that. While this code does
> >> not address that directly, we feel it???s an important step to make clear
> >> that civil discourse is an important part of an open source community
> >> and to make it very plain that all are welcome. Over the last few years,
> >> The Linux Foundation has undertaken a variety of programs to address the
> >> diversity issue. From funding kernel internships to being one of the
> >> first organizations to publish a code of conduct for our events, we take
> >> the need for diversity seriously and plan on continuing and expanding
> >> these programs as well as supporting the community in their efforts.
> >>
> >> There is a long way to go, but the kernel community is always evolving
> >> and we feel this patch is an important step.
> >>
> >>
>

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  72. 2015-03-11 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal thus far
  73. 2015-03-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal thus far
  74. 2015-03-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] February Journal almost completed
  75. 2015-03-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRAM exploit
  76. 2015-03-11 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRAM exploit
  77. 2015-03-11 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Raise the Age
  78. 2015-03-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] smithsonian 3d Images
  79. 2015-03-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Data and Goliath: Confronting the Surveillance Society
  80. 2015-03-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Fw: Anyone know of public domain paleontology papers being hidden
  81. 2015-03-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  82. 2015-03-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS and Rassbery Pie
  83. 2015-03-14 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS and Rassbery Pie
  84. 2015-03-14 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] March 2013 NYLXS Journal release
  85. 2015-03-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] state of the city
  86. 2015-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: GPL complaints
  87. 2015-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: GPL complaints
  88. 2015-03-15 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Kernel Mailing List Social Protocols
  89. 2015-03-15 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Kernel Mailing List Social Protocols
  90. 2015-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Kernel Mailing List Social Protocols
  91. 2015-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Kernel Mailing List Social Protocols
  92. 2015-03-15 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: GPL complaints
  93. 2015-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] taking account
  94. 2015-03-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Perl Games
  95. 2015-03-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal thus far
  96. 2015-03-16 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Perl Games
  97. 2015-03-16 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Gaussian Elimination and the Inner Product
  98. 2015-03-16 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Perl Games
  99. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Learning about the Kernal
  100. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: NYC local: UNIGROUP 19-MAR-2015 (Thu): Penguin Computing presents
  101. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS and Rassbery Pie
  102. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  103. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] cable crimping
  104. 2015-03-17 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Hackers Meeting Tonight
  105. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Expanding Mozilla Tech
  106. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux now eating at Windows?
  107. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  108. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FSF supports lawsuite against VMWARE for GPL violations
  109. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FSF supports lawsuite against VMWARE for GPL
  110. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FSF supports lawsuite against VMWARE for GPL
  111. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Watch Your Freedom (Because Apple's Not)
  112. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Don't publicly share materials from this course, including your
  113. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS and Rassbery Pie
  114. 2015-03-17 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Hackers Meeting Tonight
  115. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] epub format
  116. 2015-03-17 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS and Rassbery Pie
  117. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  118. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  119. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  120. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  121. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  122. 2015-03-17 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  123. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  124. 2015-03-17 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] epub format
  125. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  126. 2015-03-17 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  127. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  128. 2015-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
  129. 2015-03-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  130. 2015-03-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  131. 2015-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  132. 2015-03-18 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  133. 2015-03-18 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  134. 2015-03-18 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [csconnection-at-computer.org: Only 6 Days Left: Register for FREE
  135. 2015-03-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  136. 2015-03-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  137. 2015-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  138. 2015-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Business and Bank Accounts
  139. 2015-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Radio Show
  140. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Space at LIU for meetings and Instruction
  141. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple Buster
  142. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Movies of the Week
  143. 2015-03-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple Buster
  144. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] put your files everywhere
  145. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Center for Entrepreneurship + Innovation
  146. 2015-03-19 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Radio Show
  147. 2015-03-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Virtualbox (was: Apple crimes)
  148. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Radio Show
  149. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graduate School and Oppurtunities
  150. 2015-03-20 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [jkeen-at-verizon.net: 2nd New York City Perl Hackathon: hold the
  151. 2015-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mozilla Linux needs help **no shit**
  152. 2015-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Sunday Brunch and Journal Club Meeting
  153. 2015-03-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MTA Crimes
  154. 2015-03-21 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MTA Crimes
  155. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  156. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Steam Games
  157. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  158. 2015-03-22 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  159. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  160. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  161. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  162. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  163. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  164. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  165. 2015-03-22 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  166. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  167. 2015-03-22 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Steam Games
  168. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  169. 2015-03-22 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Steam Games
  170. 2015-03-22 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [jkeen-at-verizon.net: New York City Perl Hackathon 2015: Registration
  171. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  172. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  173. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  174. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Stop and frisk
  175. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Cromwell Linux Pages
  176. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  177. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  178. 2015-03-22 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  179. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Stop and frisk
  180. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  181. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Cromwell Linux Pages
  182. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Kernel Hacking text for free
  183. 2015-03-23 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [gabor-at-szabgab.com: [Perlweekly] #191 - Hackathon after Hackathon]
  184. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Tuesday Night
  185. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Announcement II
  186. 2015-03-23 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Announcement II
  187. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Announcement II
  188. 2015-03-23 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Tuesday Night
  189. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Tuesday Night
  190. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  191. 2015-03-24 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  192. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Printed journal
  193. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  194. 2015-03-24 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  195. 2015-03-24 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Printed journal
  196. 2015-03-24 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  197. 2015-03-24 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  198. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  199. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  200. 2015-03-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  201. 2015-03-24 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Raspberry Pi Articles
  202. 2015-03-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  203. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  204. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  205. 2015-03-24 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  206. 2015-03-24 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  207. 2015-03-24 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  208. 2015-03-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  209. 2015-03-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  210. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  211. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  212. 2015-03-24 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  213. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Threaded Programming example
  214. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [LIU Comp Sci] GNU/Linux 1
  215. 2015-03-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  216. 2015-03-25 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [LIU Comp Sci] GNU/Linux 1
  217. 2015-03-25 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  218. 2015-03-25 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  219. 2015-03-25 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [LIU Comp Sci] GNU/Linux 1
  220. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  221. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  222. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  223. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Logo?
  224. 2015-03-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  225. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Java Crimes
  226. 2015-03-25 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  227. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  228. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Threads and Speed
  229. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] jobs jobs
  230. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Earning Money
  231. 2015-03-25 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: [opensuse] No /etc/sysconfig/kernel installed in 13.2.
  232. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Welcome Back Brooklyn / Next Steps
  233. 2015-03-25 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Threads and Speed
  234. 2015-03-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Kernel Learning Resource - #1
  235. 2015-03-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  236. 2015-03-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bash Shell tricks
  237. 2015-03-27 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [opensuse] On Mulitboot with UEFI
  238. 2015-03-27 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYC Tech Council & STEM Funding
  239. 2015-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [opensuse] On Mulitboot with UEFI
  240. 2015-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Jobs
  241. 2015-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] JOUNAL MEETING AT 10AM TOMORROW
  242. 2015-03-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HW 4.18 Problem
  243. 2015-03-31 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] buying a new home
  244. 2015-03-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel
  245. 2015-03-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel
  246. 2015-03-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel
  247. 2015-03-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel
  248. 2015-03-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel

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