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DATE 2015-03-15
FROM prmarino1@gmail.com
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Kernel Mailing List Social Protocols
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Rubin
The incident I was referring to was before the systemd issues.

Also let's not forget Adam stopped participating in our group because of wh=
at he thought was a physical threat agains him by one of the members of the=
list. He asked us repeatedly to do something about it and because no actio=
ns were taken we lost a very valuable member of the group. That happened ov=
er a decade ago. Furthermore the person who the complaint was about was not=
the most effective member of the group and left the group in an angry huff=
a year or two after that.

This is a serious issue the free software community and the open-source com=
munity has allowed to grow for far too long.

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
=C2=A0 Original Message =C2=A0
From: Ruben
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 05:13
To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Reply To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Kernel Mailing List Social Protocols


On 03/10/2015 01:19 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> Rubin
> Have you actually read it there is no statement of censorship at all
> in fact the reverse its basically states that inevitably occasionally
> frustrations will run high because every one is trying to do their
> best to enhance the kernel as much as possible; however if you feel
> some one is being excessively abusive or threatening report it so they
> can attempt to resolve the situation.
>
> I agree with it there have been a lot of conversations which get out
> of hand on some lists which do go as far as physical threats. lets
> face it the majority of the Linux community are passionate about the
> technology and that breads a certain level of necessary debate which
> can often get heated. Evin I have to admit on ocassion Ive been know
> to get so frustrated on a list with people who were out of their
> league in a conversation but claimed to be an authority on the subject
> that I've filliped out and started making fun of them. and lord knows
> how many technical flame wars which had enough real technical merits
> on the opposing side that i couldn't just dismiss them but got
> extremely heated during the course of the debate. These thing happen
> and are never eliminate that from the community nor should we want to
> because often those debates lead to better results than one individual
> could come up with on their own.
>
> That said occasionally you run across a few people who are just
> mentally ill and use our community as a venue to feed their insanity
> or get off on their rage issues, and add nothing productive to the
> process. That is unacceptable
> and we as a community need to filter those people out so we can get
> meaningful productive work done. Equally as important we also need to
> be able to recognize and help people who are use to scientific debates
> to form a thicker skin about it if they are over reacting to comments
> made during a debate. To accomplish both of these task we need people
> to report if they feel they are being verbally assaulted or physically
> threatened for no reliant reason and look at each incident and
> evaluate it because part of the community has gotten out of hand.
>
> For example a few years ago while at a bar a member of NYBUG asked me
> to come out side and have a cigaret with him, as soon as we got out
> side he started pressing his finger into my chest and treated me never
> call him on his bull shit ever again.=20

I've had my share of run ins with people from the BSD group and I think
... I don't know. there is something deeply wrong with most of them.=20
It is hard to create a community and even harder in NYC, for reasons
I've never understood.=20

We grew up with pick up baseball and sports and I can't get people to
come to meetings that are in their best interest, and only the craziest
ones show up...



> Now those weren't quite the
> words he used but it definitely was a threat. Considering where and
> how I grew up his threats didn't scare me a bit they only made me very
> angry and still do, but I can see how others would be scared because
> he could be considered by many a physically imposing and the setup
> seemed a little too practiced I am positive he has done it to others
> as well. now some people may be ask what started this well essentially
> he was telling a story about something that happened at one of the NYC
> Linux world expos where he made himself sound like the only sane
> person involved and was badmouthing a lot of good people. I guess he
> forgot I was there involved in the entire situation and a know it was
> the exact opposite of what he claimed. As a result I didn't insult him
> but I did verbally knock him down a peg by telling the group some of
> what really happens and told him to stop insulting friend of mine he
> doesn't really know. his response was to get me someplace with no one
> around and threaten physical violence.
> This kind of behavior is nuts and has no place in our community!
>

Anyway, this is still just a means to set up rules to confine the
brewing conflicts that have spilled into the kernels list and nearly
everywhere else in the GNU/Linux world as systemd proponents
relentlessly look for levers to turn.


>
> here is the actual statement in
> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Docu=
mentation/CodeOfConflict?id=3Db0bc65729070b9cbdbb53ff042984a3c545a0e34
> "
>
> Code of Conflict
> ----------------
>
> The Linux kernel development effort is a very personal process compared
> to "traditional" ways of developing software. Your code and ideas
> behind it will be carefully reviewed, often resulting in critique and
> criticism. The review will almost always require improvements to the
> code before it can be included in the kernel. Know that this happens
> because everyone involved wants to see the best possible solution for
> the overall success of Linux. This development process has been proven
> to create the most robust operating system kernel ever, and we do not
> want to do anything to cause the quality of submission and eventual
> result to ever decrease.
>
> If however, anyone feels personally abused, threatened, or otherwise
> uncomfortable due to this process, that is not acceptable. If so,
> please contact the Linux Foundation's Technical Advisory Board at
> , or the individual members, and they
> will work to resolve the issue to the best of their ability. For more
> information on who is on the Technical Advisory Board and what their
> role is, please see:
> http://www.linuxfoundation.org/programs/advisory-councils/tab
>
> As a reviewer of code, please strive to keep things civil and focused on
> the technical issues involved. We are all humans, and frustrations can
> be high on both sides of the process. Try to keep in mind the immortal
> words of Bill and Ted, "Be excellent to each other."
>
>
> "
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:23 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>> https://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/158-jim-zemlin/815318-on-the-l=
inux-kernels-code-of-conflict
>>
>> I don't buy it. the last thing we need is thought police on the Linux
>> Kernel list...
>>
>> Last week, 60 kernel developers signed off on a small patch
>> ?id=3Db0bc65729070b9cbdbb53ff042984a3c545a0e34> called
>> the Code of Conflict that provides guidelines for discourse in the
>> kernel community and outlines a path for mediation if someone feels
>> abused or threatened. The code was written by kernel maintainer Greg
>> K-H, supported by many of the most prolific maintainers and developers
>> of the kernel community and accepted into the kernel by Linus Torvalds
>> himself.
>>
>> The Linux Foundation is happy to see these guidelines and is supportive
>> of the mediation process. We will work directly with the Linux
>> Foundation Technical Advisory Board to provide whatever support they
>> need in implementing this process. We believe the guidelines are
>> grounded in the unique culture and process that makes Linux so
>> successful. Conflict over code will and should happen. But the Code is
>> very clear that personal insults or abuse are not welcome.
>>
>> It=E2=80=99s no secret that the software industry would like to see more
>> diversity. The Linux Foundation believes in that. While this code does
>> not address that directly, we feel it=E2=80=99s an important step to mak=
e clear
>> that civil discourse is an important part of an open source community
>> and to make it very plain that all are welcome. Over the last few years,
>> The Linux Foundation has undertaken a variety of programs to address the
>> diversity issue. From funding kernel internships to being one of the
>> first organizations to publish a code of conduct for our events, we take
>> the need for diversity seriously and plan on continuing and expanding
>> these programs as well as supporting the community in their efforts.
>>
>> There is a long way to go, but the kernel community is always evolving
>> and we feel this patch is an important step.
>>
>>

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  65. 2015-03-10 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MEETING TONIGHT
  66. 2015-03-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MEETING TONIGHT
  67. 2015-03-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal thus far
  68. 2015-03-10 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal thus far
  69. 2015-03-10 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal thus far
  70. 2015-03-10 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal thus far
  71. 2015-03-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MEETING TONIGHT
  72. 2015-03-11 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal thus far
  73. 2015-03-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal thus far
  74. 2015-03-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] February Journal almost completed
  75. 2015-03-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRAM exploit
  76. 2015-03-11 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRAM exploit
  77. 2015-03-11 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Raise the Age
  78. 2015-03-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] smithsonian 3d Images
  79. 2015-03-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Data and Goliath: Confronting the Surveillance Society
  80. 2015-03-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Fw: Anyone know of public domain paleontology papers being hidden
  81. 2015-03-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  82. 2015-03-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS and Rassbery Pie
  83. 2015-03-14 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS and Rassbery Pie
  84. 2015-03-14 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] March 2013 NYLXS Journal release
  85. 2015-03-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] state of the city
  86. 2015-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: GPL complaints
  87. 2015-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: GPL complaints
  88. 2015-03-15 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Kernel Mailing List Social Protocols
  89. 2015-03-15 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Kernel Mailing List Social Protocols
  90. 2015-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Kernel Mailing List Social Protocols
  91. 2015-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Kernel Mailing List Social Protocols
  92. 2015-03-15 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: GPL complaints
  93. 2015-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] taking account
  94. 2015-03-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Perl Games
  95. 2015-03-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal thus far
  96. 2015-03-16 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Perl Games
  97. 2015-03-16 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Gaussian Elimination and the Inner Product
  98. 2015-03-16 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Perl Games
  99. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Learning about the Kernal
  100. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: NYC local: UNIGROUP 19-MAR-2015 (Thu): Penguin Computing presents
  101. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS and Rassbery Pie
  102. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  103. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] cable crimping
  104. 2015-03-17 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Hackers Meeting Tonight
  105. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Expanding Mozilla Tech
  106. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux now eating at Windows?
  107. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  108. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FSF supports lawsuite against VMWARE for GPL violations
  109. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FSF supports lawsuite against VMWARE for GPL
  110. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FSF supports lawsuite against VMWARE for GPL
  111. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Watch Your Freedom (Because Apple's Not)
  112. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Don't publicly share materials from this course, including your
  113. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS and Rassbery Pie
  114. 2015-03-17 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Hackers Meeting Tonight
  115. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] epub format
  116. 2015-03-17 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS and Rassbery Pie
  117. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  118. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  119. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  120. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  121. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  122. 2015-03-17 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  123. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  124. 2015-03-17 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] epub format
  125. 2015-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  126. 2015-03-17 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  127. 2015-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  128. 2015-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
  129. 2015-03-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  130. 2015-03-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  131. 2015-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  132. 2015-03-18 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  133. 2015-03-18 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  134. 2015-03-18 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [csconnection-at-computer.org: Only 6 Days Left: Register for FREE
  135. 2015-03-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  136. 2015-03-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  137. 2015-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple crimes
  138. 2015-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Business and Bank Accounts
  139. 2015-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Radio Show
  140. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Space at LIU for meetings and Instruction
  141. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple Buster
  142. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Movies of the Week
  143. 2015-03-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apple Buster
  144. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] put your files everywhere
  145. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Center for Entrepreneurship + Innovation
  146. 2015-03-19 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Radio Show
  147. 2015-03-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Virtualbox (was: Apple crimes)
  148. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Radio Show
  149. 2015-03-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graduate School and Oppurtunities
  150. 2015-03-20 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [jkeen-at-verizon.net: 2nd New York City Perl Hackathon: hold the
  151. 2015-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mozilla Linux needs help **no shit**
  152. 2015-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Sunday Brunch and Journal Club Meeting
  153. 2015-03-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MTA Crimes
  154. 2015-03-21 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MTA Crimes
  155. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  156. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Steam Games
  157. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  158. 2015-03-22 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  159. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  160. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  161. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  162. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  163. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  164. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  165. 2015-03-22 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  166. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  167. 2015-03-22 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Steam Games
  168. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  169. 2015-03-22 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Steam Games
  170. 2015-03-22 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [jkeen-at-verizon.net: New York City Perl Hackathon 2015: Registration
  171. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  172. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  173. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  174. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Stop and frisk
  175. 2015-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Cromwell Linux Pages
  176. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  177. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  178. 2015-03-22 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  179. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Stop and frisk
  180. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] in the hands of god, we are all...
  181. 2015-03-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Cromwell Linux Pages
  182. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Kernel Hacking text for free
  183. 2015-03-23 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [gabor-at-szabgab.com: [Perlweekly] #191 - Hackathon after Hackathon]
  184. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Tuesday Night
  185. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Announcement II
  186. 2015-03-23 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Announcement II
  187. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Announcement II
  188. 2015-03-23 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Tuesday Night
  189. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Tuesday Night
  190. 2015-03-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  191. 2015-03-24 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  192. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Printed journal
  193. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  194. 2015-03-24 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  195. 2015-03-24 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Printed journal
  196. 2015-03-24 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  197. 2015-03-24 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  198. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  199. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  200. 2015-03-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  201. 2015-03-24 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Raspberry Pi Articles
  202. 2015-03-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  203. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  204. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  205. 2015-03-24 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  206. 2015-03-24 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  207. 2015-03-24 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  208. 2015-03-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  209. 2015-03-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  210. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  211. 2015-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  212. 2015-03-24 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  213. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Threaded Programming example
  214. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [LIU Comp Sci] GNU/Linux 1
  215. 2015-03-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  216. 2015-03-25 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [LIU Comp Sci] GNU/Linux 1
  217. 2015-03-25 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  218. 2015-03-25 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  219. 2015-03-25 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [LIU Comp Sci] GNU/Linux 1
  220. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  221. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  222. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  223. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Logo?
  224. 2015-03-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Proposed Space
  225. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Java Crimes
  226. 2015-03-25 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  227. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  228. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Threads and Speed
  229. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] jobs jobs
  230. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Earning Money
  231. 2015-03-25 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: [opensuse] No /etc/sysconfig/kernel installed in 13.2.
  232. 2015-03-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Welcome Back Brooklyn / Next Steps
  233. 2015-03-25 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Threads and Speed
  234. 2015-03-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Kernel Learning Resource - #1
  235. 2015-03-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1
  236. 2015-03-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bash Shell tricks
  237. 2015-03-27 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [opensuse] On Mulitboot with UEFI
  238. 2015-03-27 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYC Tech Council & STEM Funding
  239. 2015-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [opensuse] On Mulitboot with UEFI
  240. 2015-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Jobs
  241. 2015-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] JOUNAL MEETING AT 10AM TOMORROW
  242. 2015-03-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HW 4.18 Problem
  243. 2015-03-31 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] buying a new home
  244. 2015-03-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel
  245. 2015-03-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel
  246. 2015-03-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel
  247. 2015-03-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel
  248. 2015-03-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel

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