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DATE 2019-11-02
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Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Involuntary involvement to counter smear
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Hello, GNU maintainer here, co-maintainer for the GnuCOBOL package.

I've been making noise in private channels that any overly publicized
discussion about the GNU project management, leadership, and future is
an obvious opportunistic attempt to weaken GNU from within.=C2=A0 Ulterior
motives at play during a smear campaign directed at the founder of the
free software movement, Richard Stallman.=C2=A0 Richard, third party through
a deceased second party implicated in nefarious activities of the first
party.=C2=A0 This triggered a mob response, immense pressure and a
resignation from well respected positions.=C2=A0 Shortly after this
unfortunate turn of events, internal GNU lists get an announcement of a
public statement about issues regarding GNU internals, raising questions
of leadership, with undertones of assuming rights of "ownership".

I voted no to holding further public discussions during a smear
campaign.=C2=A0 Utterly inappropriate timing, either as part of forwarding =
an
agenda, perhaps to ultimately weakening the GPL in the eyes of the
public and courts, by continuing to spread hearsay and misinformed
opinion using public network pressures against the founder of GNU, lead
architect of the GPL and model of truly free software.

The smear campaign has handed GNU some wedge issues, at a very critical
time in its history.=C2=A0 This is an obvious play at distracting the base
membership, to maximize effect of initial headlines and misrepresentations.

We, or some, have fallen for the wedges, began arguing in unkind, heated
fashion, while reports go undefended against Richard and GNU.

Instead there is growing pressure from within to disrupt the status quo
of the GNU arm of Richard's project.

I find this unacceptable and recreant behaviour from anyone that
actually stands firm for the form of truly free software that is GNU.

These conversations, important conversations, are continually discussed
under less public light between GNU volunteers.=C2=A0 The current public
discussion is a wedge issue, timed to maximize on public pressures.=C2=A0
Misinformed, opinion based network mob pressure.

Richard pondered codes and contracts, and delivered the Kind
Communications guidelines.=C2=A0 Perfect.=C2=A0 Decision made.=C2=A0 Richar=
d's
decision.=C2=A0 The GNU decision.

Richard has indicated the current governance issues are also being
pondered, along with the development of a model to ensure a solid and
future proofed transfer of GNU rights is put in place.

Here's a thing; any pressured discussion regarding replacing Richard,
governance, leadership, roles, is moot; outside the event horizon of any
final result decisions. GNU is Richard's project.

Richard has indicated that he has been reading, and taking inputs for
further thought.=C2=A0 GNU is a volunteer project organized under an
individual.=C2=A0 Decisions for GNU are Richard's to make.=C2=A0 No amount =
of
public network pressure changes that fundamental fact.=C2=A0 Current flash
and mob pressure discussions are simply flash and mob pressures,
dividing GNU volunteers in negative ways.

To ensure a future GNU, there are activities required to ensure present
GNU.=C2=A0 Time sensitive and critical events are in progress.=C2=A0 I vote=
no on
prioritizing this discussion at a time when there is an active campaign
that can be seen as an attempt to weaken free software and respect for
the GPL.

We can discuss future proofing GNU when it is apparent that current
externally generated events are properly defended.=C2=A0 GNU is what GNU is
because, recursion.

There is little room for kindness when facing internal existential
threats in tandem with outside threats.

There can be bluntness.=C2=A0 Bluntly, continuation of this distraction, at
this time, under this spotlight, is dangerous. We are being played.=C2=A0 We
were handed wedges and we are being played.=C2=A0 We don't need to tear apa=
rt
GNU to remake GNU when there are forces that would like to see GNU torn
apart, weakening free software and potentially tainting the GPL.

Bluntly, I expect reasonable people to see that head strong continuation
of this distraction regarding the make of GNU is an indication of bias
filtered ignorance or malfeasance. Player or played.

Unkind words, intentionally.

Even as I type this note in an attempt to diminish damage that is
occurring to the reputation of Richard and GNU, I'm diminishing the
reputation of GNU with a display of infighting.=C2=A0 Played.=C2=A0 Admitte=
d.=C2=A0
Wedged apart from respected peers.

Time to tout free software, tout the GPL, tout GNU.

GNU volunteers should be rallying, allowing truth to form amongst all
the public network misinformation and hearsay, not piling on for an
opportunity to further personal agendas.

We are all being wedged to pick sides on emotionally charged issues, to
the detriment of the future of truly free software, possibly tarnishing
the past and continuing life works of Richard Stallman.

As I was falling to the wedges, I was overly excitedly in the more
private channels of GNU, and unkind.=C2=A0 Digging deeper than simple
headlines, the overall reaction to the Slashdot article that was part of
the unfortunate timing after the MIT mailing list flash point, seemed
overly dismissive of skill of the signatories of the Joint Statement,
which I also found unfortunate.=C2=A0 We need to limit mob influence over
reputations and sense of well being if truly free software has a chance
to flourish into the next generation. These threads, at this time, only
add to the potential of additional ruinous public overreaction and
utterly misinformed mass opinions, perceptions and summary judgments.

This is all adding moral and ethical debt to the volunteer time of GNU
as we eventually restore reputations during the unwinding of internet
history.=C2=A0 The efforts being expended here in this current collection of
Joint Statement threads are only adding more layers to unwind and clarify.

We should clarify the misrepresentations now, correct the misinformation
and publicize facts instead of turmoil, however cathartic that turmoil
may seem to some with a need to express visions of future GNU and
volunteer structures.

I truly believe that history will apologize to Richard for the current
round of smears, however long it takes for fair truth to form in the
public perception. It does not feel inappropriate to start apologizing now.

Sorry, Richard.

It may never be proven as to where from, but reasonable people can only
conclude that we are being played, from inside and out. This has not
been a truly organic sequence of events or public reporting.=C2=A0
gnu-misc-discuss is now under a form of moderation that can only be seen
as an attempt to control the narrative, or simply add wedges.

It may already be too late, but the only way to win these (or in this
case not lose, as there is no winning here) is to not play or be played.
Not losing GNU, not allowing a weakening of the GPL and truly free
software will require unwinding accumulated misrepresentations.

Time to tout GNU, Richard's GNU.

Sincerely,
Brian Tiffin

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  68. 2019-11-05 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  69. 2019-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  70. 2019-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  71. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was: Women
  72. 2019-11-05 Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau <galex-713-at-galex-713.eu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  73. 2019-11-05 Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau <galex-713-at-galex-713.eu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why fewer contributors to GNU? They have to
  74. 2019-11-05 Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau <galex-713-at-galex-713.eu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  75. 2019-11-05 Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau <galex-713-at-galex-713.eu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Filtering indirection [Was: Re: list moderation]
  76. 2019-11-05 Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau <galex-713-at-galex-713.eu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  77. 2019-11-05 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  78. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  79. 2019-11-05 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  80. 2019-11-05 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  81. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  82. 2019-11-05 Mark Wielaard <mark-at-klomp.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  83. 2019-11-05 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?b?W2Ftc0BnbnUub3JnOiBSZTogQSBHTlUg4oCc?=
  84. 2019-11-05 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  85. 2019-11-05 Mark Wielaard <mark-at-klomp.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  86. 2019-11-05 Dora Scilipoti <dora-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  87. 2019-11-05 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Will RMS be back to Programming now?
  88. 2019-11-05 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why fewer contributors to GNU? They have to
  89. 2019-11-05 Dora Scilipoti <dora-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  90. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  91. 2019-11-05 From: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2-at-worcester.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  92. 2019-11-05 Brandon Invergo <brandon-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  93. 2019-11-05 Andreas <avr-at-softwarelibre.nl> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was:
  94. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  95. 2019-11-05 From: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2-at-worcester.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was:
  96. 2019-11-05 Brandon Invergo <brandon-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  97. 2019-11-05 Brandon Invergo <brandon-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  98. 2019-11-05 From: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2-at-worcester.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  99. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The list discourse
  100. 2019-11-05 Dora Scilipoti <dora-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  101. 2019-11-05 ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was:
  102. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The list discourse (was: list moderation)
  103. 2019-11-05 From: "Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)" <936-846-2769-at-kylheku.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  104. 2019-11-05 Andreas <avr-at-softwarelibre.nl> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was:
  105. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  106. 2019-11-05 From: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2-at-worcester.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The list discourse (was: list moderation)
  107. 2019-11-05 Dora Scilipoti <dora-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  108. 2019-11-05 Brandon Invergo <brandon-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was:
  109. 2019-11-05 From: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2-at-worcester.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was:
  110. 2019-11-05 ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Re: A GNU “social contract”?
  111. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was: Women
  112. 2019-11-05 ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  113. 2019-11-05 ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Re: A GNU “social contract”?
  114. 2019-11-05 From: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2-at-worcester.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  115. 2019-11-05 Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau <galex-713-at-galex-713.eu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  116. 2019-11-05 Brandon Invergo <brandon-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  117. 2019-11-05 Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau <galex-713-at-galex-713.eu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  118. 2019-11-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  119. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  120. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  121. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  122. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  123. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  124. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Kind Communication Guidelines versus
  125. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Kind Communication Guidelines versus
  126. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Kind Communication Guidelines versus
  127. 2019-11-06 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  128. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  129. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Kind Communication Guidelines versus
  130. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Kind Communication Guidelines versus
  131. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Kind Communication Guidelines versus
  132. 2019-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  133. 2019-11-06 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Concrete_suggestions_on_how_to_make_G?=
  134. 2019-11-06 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  135. 2019-11-06 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?GNU_vs=2E_Church_of_Emacs_=28was=3A_A?=
  136. 2019-11-06 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  137. 2019-11-06 Brandon Invergo <brandon-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  138. 2019-11-06 Andreas <avr-at-softwarelibre.nl> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  139. 2019-11-06 ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Re: A GNU “social contract”?
  140. 2019-11-06 Andreas Enge <andreas-at-enge.fr> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  141. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  142. 2019-11-07 IEEE Spectrum <ieee-spectrum-at-deliver.ieee.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Tech Alert
  143. 2019-11-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  144. 2019-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] KVM and Networking access
  145. 2019-11-11 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #433 - Tabs or spaces,
  146. 2019-11-12 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] NYLUG Open Hacker Hours on Tuesday, November 26
  147. 2019-11-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  148. 2019-11-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  149. 2019-11-13 From: "Dana Morgenstein, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Spring internships at the FSF! Apply by Nov. 29
  150. 2019-11-13 Healthcare Update News Service <admin-at-healthcareupdatenewsservice.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 20th Anniversary Population Health Colloquium
  151. 2019-11-13 From: "Speaker Corey Johnson" <SpeakerJohnson-at-council.nyc.gov> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?A_Master_Plan_for_Our_City=27s_Street?=
  152. 2019-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [653360]Re: mrbrklyn.com
  153. 2019-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [OpenDNS] Re: mrbrklyn.com
  154. 2019-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [653360]Re: mrbrklyn.com
  155. 2019-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [OpenDNS] Re: mrbrklyn.com
  156. 2019-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [653360]Re: mrbrklyn.com
  157. 2019-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] In the Beginning... almost
  158. 2019-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  159. 2019-11-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  160. 2019-11-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  161. 2019-11-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 18 THOUSAND new city workers to call 311
  162. 2019-11-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] EmergingTech is Hiring CompTIA Certified Trainers
  163. 2019-11-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Complaint from NYLUG
  164. 2019-11-20 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Complaint from NYLUG
  165. 2019-11-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Complaint from NYLUG
  166. 2019-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Sharecroppers
  167. 2019-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] ignorance and the media - ted talk
  168. 2019-11-18 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #434 - How is Perl and Raku doing?
  169. 2019-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Your Brooklyn Congressmen at Work
  170. 2019-11-20 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Complaint from NYLUG
  171. 2019-11-20 From: "Yachna Narang" <yachnan-at-etalentnetwork.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Urgent need for Oracle and Unix/Linux Systems
  172. 2019-11-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Director Of Information Technology at MTA
  173. 2019-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Complaint from NYLUG
  174. 2019-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nice cheat sheet for terminal
  175. 2019-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] virish and virt-manager fails to installs
  176. 2019-11-25 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #435 - Vue.js and Perl
  177. 2019-11-25 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #435 - Vue.js and Perl
  178. 2019-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] from my websites - first page
  179. 2019-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] libvirt bug report
  180. 2019-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Happy Thanksgiving

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