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DATE | 2019-11-05 |
FROM | Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why fewer contributors to GNU? They have to
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Nov 5 21:25:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EBB161151; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:25:38 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 360FD161150; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:24:52 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:24:52 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20191106022452.GB20969-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85286161132 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:14:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:52314 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSAqX-0002hy-H5 for ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 21:14:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49863) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSAqM-0002hb-Qa for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 21:14:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSAqL-0005OO-G4 for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 21:14:46 -0500 Received: from portable.galex-713.eu ([2a00:5884:8305::1]:52512 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSAqL-0005Hu-8u for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 21:14:45 -0500 Received: from gal by galex-713.eu with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iSAqD-0001U5-VP; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 03:14:38 +0100 From: Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau To: Jean Louis Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 03:14:37 +0100 Message-ID: <11237351.oc8x2Qi20P-at-pc-713> In-Reply-To: <20191105222148.GG17190-at-protected.rcdrun.com> References: <5ec38bda-be9c-337e-ec18-a3b983a68b73-at-runbox.com> <20191105222148.GG17190-at-protected.rcdrun.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:5884:8305::1 X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list X-UID: 63627 Cc: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why fewer contributors to GNU? They have to reveal identity and assign copyright X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
Le mardi 5 novembre 2019, 23:21:48 CET Jean Louis a =C3=A9crit : > * Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> [2019-11-05 16:56]: > > > That is not quite so. In America country it is possible to use pen > > > names. > > =
> > Why is it specific to =E2=80=98America country=E2=80=99 (whatever it is= )? > =
> I meant USA. > =
> You are right, probably other countries also allow pen-name > copyrights. > =
> When somebody refers to America and wish to say US citizen, then I > just used America country to indicate it is meant as a country, not > America as a continent.
Isn=E2=80=99t =E2=80=9CUSA=E2=80=9D more easy to understand than =E2=80=9Ca= merica country=E2=80=9D? it might means =
=E2=80=9Ccountry of america=E2=80=9D (so to speak about country side or any= specific country =
within the american continent people were most previously speaking about).
> It was response to generalization about > "Americans".
How=E2=80=99s that?
What generalization exactely btw? wasn=E2=80=99t there several?
> Generalizations are often used for accusation and hate speech.
Warry selection bias might apply.
> It is > very easy to say "Americans are bad" or "Russians are bad". Talking in > generalizations is in itself anti-social characteristic.
No. Generalization is a highly natural cognitive process, and cultural =
generalization an even more social one. Moralizing and uniformizing =
stereotypes by trusting propaganda and hate speech may be anti-social.
It=E2=80=99s natural to generalize, problem when generalization actually (l= inearly/ monodimensionally) hierarchize people and becomes part of division culture = or =
oppression.
> It is > justified when there is objective or by public accepted point of > reference or statistical reference.
Nothing is objective, and even personal subjective view may be relevant, su= ch =
as =E2=80=9Camericans find russian accent scary=E2=80=9D (there are actuall= y linguistic =
explanations of that) or =E2=80=9Crussians are quiet and serviable=E2=80=9D.
In the end when you know people, individual difference always end up fillin= g =
everything, so you becomes less able to filter/construe collective =
generalizations that might appears as obvious to newcomers (I=E2=80=99m for= that quite =
curious about stereotypes about cultures and countries I=E2=80=99m in/part = of, a lot =
naturally have revealed right until now (like about french (non) humility a= nd =
hygiene or italian food (interest)))
> Maybe such office exists in other countries, but I have not found > it.
I know in France we have a copyright office too, but copyright is automatic= and =
registration is only a security.
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