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DATE | 2019-11-05 |
FROM | Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Nov 5 21:24:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40DD16113A; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:24:51 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3F104161134; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:24:47 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:24:47 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20191106022447.GA20969-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEC4161132 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:52326 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSAtL-0003Qs-KY for ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 21:17:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51802) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSAtG-0003Ov-Do for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 21:17:48 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSAtF-0008Pe-Ai for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 21:17:46 -0500 Received: from portable.galex-713.eu ([2a00:5884:8305::1]:52538 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSAtD-0008Ok-JR; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 21:17:45 -0500 Received: from gal by galex-713.eu with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iSAtB-0001bz-A7; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 03:17:41 +0100 From: Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau To: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 03:17:41 +0100 Message-ID: <4432595.fEBUx2V4Ek-at-pc-713> In-Reply-To: References: <5ec38bda-be9c-337e-ec18-a3b983a68b73-at-runbox.com> <87ftj2xkzg.fsf-at-gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:5884:8305::1 X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list X-UID: 63628 Cc: Sandra Loosemore , gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
Le mardi 5 novembre 2019, 19:48:36 CET Dmitry Alexandrov a =C3=A9crit : > Brandon Invergo wrote: > > Dmitry Alexandrov writes: > >> I=CA=BCm afraid, you conflated two points. Publicity that undermine t= he core > >> competency of an organization =E2=80=94 yes, is perhaps is the most ha= rmful > >> thing for it. > >> =
> >> While negative publicity on irrelevant topics is either much less > >> harmful, or sometimes even beneficial. > >> =
> >> Dr. Stallman has been always, in almost every his speech, pointed out, > >> that in terms of publicity everything is still so bad, that he has to > >> struggle to make it known that GNU and free software movement in gener= al > >> merely exist. And that they are not the same as Linux=C2=AE and =E2= =80=98open > >> source=E2=80=99, in particular. > >> =
> >> Under that conditions, any kind of public attention to GNU should be > >> welcoming.> =
> > As I previously requested, please let's drop discussions of particular > > people, especially when it comes to what they said or did outside of GN= U. > > I know you are not attacking but standing in rms's defense > No, I actually did not defend him specifically. If Sandra have posted her > rant not here, but in some place where it could reach those who are unawa= re > of free software, I would present the very same arguments in her defence. You did made a general point, taking a specific person as an example. That =
might have been omitted. But for the sake of clarity, I=E2=80=99m happy th= is =
happened. A bunch of people from all side asked to clarify accusations and =
statements when they=E2=80=99re made (likely to better contradict and deny = those).
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