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DATE | 2019-11-05 |
FROM | From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?=
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Nov 5 12:26:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68892163F86; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:26:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CC116163F60; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:24:56 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:24:56 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20191105172456.GR16573-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3310161132 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 07:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:43456 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iRxst-0005rz-FH for ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 07:24:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39122) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iRwYU-0003qI-Lj for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 05:59:23 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48121) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iRwYU-0005es-4F; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 05:59:22 -0500 Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (port=52652 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iRwYT-0002lq-C1; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 05:59:21 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Brandon Invergo References: <87o8xsan5b.fsf-at-gnu.org> <87eeyozltf.fsf-at-gnu.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 15 Brumaire an 228 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 11:59:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87eeyozltf.fsf-at-gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Sun, 03 Nov 2019 22:34:04 +0100") Message-ID: <87ftj2612x.fsf-at-gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 07:24:20 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list X-UID: 63543 Cc: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
Hi again Brandon,
Ludovic Court=C3=A8s skribis:
> I think Mark and Carlos have done a great job. I am happy that this > list was host to constructive discussions and not as toxic as the > private GNU lists. I am concerned that about the ability to continue > discussing constructively going forward.
A bit more than 24 hours later, two things have become clear to me: that Mark and Carlos were indeed doing a good moderation job, and that by not doing any moderation, you=E2=80=99ve opened the flood gates and silenced the rest of us.
In that time we got ~100 messages, the majority of which were written by the same 3 people. Worse, many of those messages were personal attacks, and many others were off-topic for this list.
Brandon, I see what you=E2=80=99ve achieved, but could you please explain w= hat your goal is?
Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
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