MESSAGE
DATE | 2019-11-06 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
|
SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Kind Communication Guidelines versus
|
From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Wed Nov 6 15:55:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D423D161151; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 15:55:31 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5B64516114A; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 15:55:27 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 15:55:27 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20191106205527.GB29479-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 15:42:32 -0500 From: Ruben Safir To: Florian Weimer Message-ID: <20191106204232.GA29279-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20191106085621.GB17048-at-protected.rcdrun.com> <20191106093301.GA1589-at-jurong> <20191106103703.GH17048-at-protected.rcdrun.com> <87r22k3izl.fsf-at-mid.deneb.enyo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87r22k3izl.fsf-at-mid.deneb.enyo.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: GNU Miscellaneous Discussion , Jean Louis Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Kind Communication Guidelines versus social contract or Codes of Conduct X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
> You are very, very wrong. We are trying very hard to stay within GNU, > but the feedback we have received so far on GNU mail lists suggests > that we are not wanted here. >
This just continues with a bunch of half truths followed by blatant lies. Who has given you feedback that you are unwelcome. And btw, you are talking like you speak for a group of people. Who exactly is this group that is search for ways to remain in GNU but are getting negative feedback. What and who is giving you negative feedback.
This story, as you write it, is unbelievable.
> Keep in mind that *we* have to justify to our friends and colleagues > why we support, through our paid and unpaid work, a project that > refuses to distance itself from a leader who has bizarre notions about > consent. This is the reality for us. >
You don't have to do any such thing. Nobody is asking you why you work for an organization headed by Richard. They don't. I know, it is bizzarre for you understand, but the braoder world couldn't care less about RMS and couldn't pick him out of a line up.
Aside from that, RMS has no such "bizzarre notions" about sex and consent. What is bizzarre is that you are fixated on a a falsehood, propagated by a lyer.
> Looking back over the last 18 months or so, I am no longer sure if > people join GNU because they want to work towards a world of free > software, or if GNU is simply the pretext they need to label other > people as morally corrupt or wrong,
So that is the second false accusation that you peppered you email with, and somehow this is allowed on a public mailing list.
There is no corruption and nothing morally wrong with GNU or its leadership, and your saying that it is, makes you very suspect.
Their is nothing morally wrong with GNU, and there never was, or its leadership.
> downright evil,
I think this is the point where the term hysterical becomes appropriate..
at no time has GNU been evil, or run by evil people.
> and generally > bully them,
Nobody are GNU, from RMS down ever bullied ANYONE... period.
>while viewing themselves as morally superior.
GNU is an elitist organization that promotes that all software be Free.
But anyone can join.
-- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com
Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
_______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
|
|