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DATE | 2019-11-05 |
FROM | Jean Louis
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SUBJECT | Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?b?W2Ftc0BnbnUub3JnOiBSZTogQSBHTlUg4oCc?=
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Nov 5 21:30:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C6C163F54; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:30:05 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 93C62161150; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:25:19 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:25:19 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20191106022519.GL20969-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com (stw1.rcdrun.com [217.170.207.13]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C68E161132 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 17:50:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from protected.rcdrun.com ([::ffff:31.223.149.156]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1) by stw1.rcdrun.com with UTF8ESMTPSA id 0000000000057D72.000000005DC1FCC7.00002D87; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 15:50:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1001) by protected.rcdrun.com with local id 00000000000CC577.000000005DC1FCC4.0000654D; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 23:50:44 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 23:50:44 +0100 From: Jean Louis To: Ruben Safir Message-ID: <20191105225044.GJ17190-at-protected.rcdrun.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-UID: 63613 Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?b?W2Ftc0BnbnUub3JnOiBSZTogQSBHTlUg4oCc?= =?utf-8?b?c29jaWFsIGNvbnRyYWN04oCdP10=?= X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
You see how Alfred is doing. He puts Ludo down, Ludo is not getting it, I am really surprised. But then after researching his speeches, and websites, he never was mentioning free software as philosophy, he was always speaking of technical features of software as engineer.
He never got understanding what means free software philosophy and what is actually GNU project.
Now when Guix is basically having a lot of contributions, he really started thinking he could take GNU project over.
I would be fine with it, would he speak of free software and not defame founder -- but now and forever, it cannot be fine.
Do it as Alfred, show him his place in right way, so that arguments speak, not profanity.
----- Forwarded message from "Alfred M. Szmidt" -----
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 12:46:42 -0500 From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" To: Ludovic Court=C3=A8s Cc: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Subject: Re: A GNU =E2=80=9Csocial contract=E2=80=9D?
We could define =E2=80=9Cmember=E2=80=9D as someone who signed the socia= l contract, but that=E2=80=99s probably not enough: a group of people could make a hosti= le takeover by signing it en masse. So there needs to be some form of cooptation to avoid that, as is commonly done in organizations.
A GNU project member, be them contributors, or maintainers, have never been required to sign anything to consider themselves members of the GNU project. Asking them to do so now would be unfriendly and counter productive. The sentence that GNU members have agreed to anything should be dropped completely, because that is not true.
In the GNU project everyone is welcome, even people who do not share the goals and philosophy of the GNU project.
I guess that leads to a new sub-task: defining the procedure to become a =E2=80=9Cmember=E2=80=9D of the project.
You send a patch, you contribute documentation, you work on Savannah, you don't sign or agree to anything to become a member of the GNU project. =
Please stop creating barriers, and hinders for people to contribute to GNU.
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