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DATE	2019-11-04
FROM	Ruben Safir
SUBJECT	Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Please behave :)
On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 11:42:56PM -0500, Dora Scilipoti wrote: > Hello Ruben, > > I know we are all happy that the censorship is finally out. But I saw > all the messages you sent to the list today, probably out of happiness, > and I think that doesn't help. The ex censors will have an excuse to say > that they were right, and will accuse Brandon of not having done the > right thing. > > Remember Brandon said: > > "This is not an invitation for open flames. Please continue to abide > by the Kind Communication Guidelines. We will closely monitor the > discussion and we will take appropriate actions as necessary." > > I fear that messages like the ones you sent today are not going to help > in our goal of defending Richard. > A) It is always a mistake to think a mailing list can affect any real world change... they are unimportant and this one is very unimportant as it is a mis category. B) I don't care about the moderation. I'll work around it. I will get a record of the conversations on the NYLXS archive for future reference C) Your not right anyway... sounding nice is not going to accomplish anything in this case. You are dealing with bullies and bigots that have up until now gotten thier way by being bullies and bigots. NOT THIS TIME. Since Richard is not taking my phone calls after decades of friendship, you can tell him that I said, NOT THIS TIME. This is not the Gnome Foundation walking out on him and being cruel. This is a direct attack on his personal integrety, and it reflects on all of us, not just him. It is not just a civil rights issue, and a public lynching, and an attack on "old white men", but it was/is criminal libel. It is time for him to step up and vocally defend himself and let the chips fall where they may. If he won't defend himself now, then he shouldn't have been flapping his yap on a hot button issue 3 months ago, fully awre of the kind of fall out it could create, even if he didn't realize that he was being set up. If people hate him more because we are speaking up about the injustice, it is 100% not logical that by being quite they will come to hate him any less. They just hate him. And most of them are anti-semetic bigots, especially in that hotbed of hostility and bigotry in Bordauex. They will not be satisfied until he is stripped naked and bare, and they will then destory GNU and the FSF because they don't believe in the fundemental principles, and they don't have the stomach to keep the program on course in the face of critism and profits. > > > -- > Dora Scilipoti > GNU Education Team > gnu.org/education -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout