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Hi Andreas,

Andreas Enge skribis:

> These are good points. I wrote "that respect users' freedom" everywhere,
> and spoke a bit more vaguely of "systems", as well as dropped all referen=
ces
> to computers. Given that the document is aimed to be valid longterm, there
> should indeed be some opening for future projects. For instance, providing
> a free system for smartphones might be the next big project; this seems to
> be the area where currently we experience the biggest restrictions of our
> daily life when we want to limit ourselves to free software. And while th=
is
> is, strictly speaking, covered by "operating systems for computers", I
> wanted to avoid to sound too specific like "GNU/Linux for 'traditional'
> computers". Also, there is the topic of free hardware. Why this does not
> seem to be something that we can tackle currently, it might be an option
> and entirely reasonable in a few years from now. And I would argue it can=
be
> within our mission statement (also given that the boundary between soft- =
and
> hardware becomes quite blurry).
>
> Then, as discussed, I merged the points 1, 2 and 4.
>
> Unlike discussed so far, I rewrote parts in my personal style:
> - I replaced most occurrences of "the GNU Project" by "we", to emphasise
> that this is indeed a commitment by us towards our users.

I think we should avoid =E2=80=9Cwe=E2=80=9D because it=E2=80=99s ambiguous=
. Instead, I very
much prefer either =E2=80=9Cthe GNU Project=E2=80=9D or maybe =E2=80=9Cmemb=
ers of the Project=E2=80=9D
where appropriate, but =E2=80=9Cmembers=E2=80=9D is undefined.

> - As I like snappy text, I shortened things quite a bit and occasionally
> left out the rationale for a paragraph.

Perfect. :-)

> Proposal of a =E2=80=9CGNU Social Contract=E2=80=9D
>
> This document states the core commitments of the GNU Project to the
> broader free software community. All current GNU Project members
> have agreed to uphold these values.

Note that =E2=80=9Cmembers=E2=80=9D is undefined, but maybe that=E2=80=99s =
OK.

We could define =E2=80=9Cmember=E2=80=9D as someone who signed the social c=
ontract, but
that=E2=80=99s probably not enough: a group of people could make a hostile
takeover by signing it en masse. So there needs to be some form of
cooptation to avoid that, as is commonly done in organizations.

I guess that leads to a new sub-task: defining the procedure to become a
=E2=80=9Cmember=E2=80=9D of the project.

> The purpose of the GNU Project is to provide software and systems that
> respect users' freedoms.
>
> * GNU respects users' freedoms
>
> We provide software that guarantees to users the four essential freedoms,
> without compromise:
> 0. The freedom to run the program as they wish, for any purpose.
> 1. The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does
> their computing as they wish.
> Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
> 2. The freedom to redistribute copies so they can help others.
> 3. The freedom to distribute copies of their modified versions to other=
s.
> By doing this they can give the whole community a chance to benefit
> from their changes.
> Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
>
> All software written by us is distributed under copyleft licenses, design=
ed
> to ensure that developers cannot strip off users' freedom from GNU softwa=
re.

Like others wrote, this should be stated as a preference:

The GNU Project preferably distributes software it develops under =E2=80=
=A6

Also, it may be better to avoid the term =E2=80=9Ccopyleft=E2=80=9D unless =
we define it.

> * GNU provides consistent systems

Side note: in the first version, I tried to use =E2=80=9CGNU=E2=80=9D to re=
fer to the
software, and =E2=80=9Cthe GNU Project=E2=80=9D to refer to the collective.=
It might be
worth preserving that distinction for clarity.

> We develop an operating system and a set of applications, in the form of
> GNU packages. GNU package developers work together to ensure consistency
> across packages. GNU packages follow the design and development guidelin=
es
> of the GNU Project.

Perhaps s/follow/should follow/ to better reflect current reality.

> * GNU collaborates with the broader free software community
>
> Free software has extended beyond the GNU Project, and we work with
> companion free software projects that develop key components of our syste=
m.

s/our system/the GNU operating system/ (to make it sound less
possessive.)

That=E2=80=99s all I have to say!

Should we do a v2.1 based on this and feedback others gave?
What do people think?

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.
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  70. 2019-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  71. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was: Women
  72. 2019-11-05 Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau <galex-713-at-galex-713.eu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  73. 2019-11-05 Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau <galex-713-at-galex-713.eu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why fewer contributors to GNU? They have to
  74. 2019-11-05 Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau <galex-713-at-galex-713.eu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  75. 2019-11-05 Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau <galex-713-at-galex-713.eu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Filtering indirection [Was: Re: list moderation]
  76. 2019-11-05 Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau <galex-713-at-galex-713.eu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  77. 2019-11-05 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  78. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  79. 2019-11-05 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  80. 2019-11-05 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  81. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  82. 2019-11-05 Mark Wielaard <mark-at-klomp.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  83. 2019-11-05 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?b?W2Ftc0BnbnUub3JnOiBSZTogQSBHTlUg4oCc?=
  84. 2019-11-05 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  85. 2019-11-05 Mark Wielaard <mark-at-klomp.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  86. 2019-11-05 Dora Scilipoti <dora-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  87. 2019-11-05 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Will RMS be back to Programming now?
  88. 2019-11-05 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why fewer contributors to GNU? They have to
  89. 2019-11-05 Dora Scilipoti <dora-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  90. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  91. 2019-11-05 From: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2-at-worcester.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  92. 2019-11-05 Brandon Invergo <brandon-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  93. 2019-11-05 Andreas <avr-at-softwarelibre.nl> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was:
  94. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  95. 2019-11-05 From: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2-at-worcester.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was:
  96. 2019-11-05 Brandon Invergo <brandon-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  97. 2019-11-05 Brandon Invergo <brandon-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  98. 2019-11-05 From: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2-at-worcester.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  99. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The list discourse
  100. 2019-11-05 Dora Scilipoti <dora-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  101. 2019-11-05 ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was:
  102. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The list discourse (was: list moderation)
  103. 2019-11-05 From: "Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)" <936-846-2769-at-kylheku.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  104. 2019-11-05 Andreas <avr-at-softwarelibre.nl> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was:
  105. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  106. 2019-11-05 From: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2-at-worcester.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The list discourse (was: list moderation)
  107. 2019-11-05 Dora Scilipoti <dora-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  108. 2019-11-05 Brandon Invergo <brandon-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was:
  109. 2019-11-05 From: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2-at-worcester.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was:
  110. 2019-11-05 ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Re: A GNU “social contract”?
  111. 2019-11-05 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was: Women
  112. 2019-11-05 ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  113. 2019-11-05 ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Re: A GNU “social contract”?
  114. 2019-11-05 From: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2-at-worcester.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  115. 2019-11-05 Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau <galex-713-at-galex-713.eu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  116. 2019-11-05 Brandon Invergo <brandon-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  117. 2019-11-05 Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau <galex-713-at-galex-713.eu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
  118. 2019-11-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  119. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  120. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  121. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  122. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  123. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  124. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Kind Communication Guidelines versus
  125. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Kind Communication Guidelines versus
  126. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Kind Communication Guidelines versus
  127. 2019-11-06 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful?
  128. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  129. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Kind Communication Guidelines versus
  130. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Kind Communication Guidelines versus
  131. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Kind Communication Guidelines versus
  132. 2019-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  133. 2019-11-06 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Concrete_suggestions_on_how_to_make_G?=
  134. 2019-11-06 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  135. 2019-11-06 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?GNU_vs=2E_Church_of_Emacs_=28was=3A_A?=
  136. 2019-11-06 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  137. 2019-11-06 Brandon Invergo <brandon-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  138. 2019-11-06 Andreas <avr-at-softwarelibre.nl> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  139. 2019-11-06 ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Re: A GNU “social contract”?
  140. 2019-11-06 Andreas Enge <andreas-at-enge.fr> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  141. 2019-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  142. 2019-11-07 IEEE Spectrum <ieee-spectrum-at-deliver.ieee.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Tech Alert
  143. 2019-11-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  144. 2019-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] KVM and Networking access
  145. 2019-11-11 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #433 - Tabs or spaces,
  146. 2019-11-12 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] NYLUG Open Hacker Hours on Tuesday, November 26
  147. 2019-11-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  148. 2019-11-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  149. 2019-11-13 From: "Dana Morgenstein, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Spring internships at the FSF! Apply by Nov. 29
  150. 2019-11-13 Healthcare Update News Service <admin-at-healthcareupdatenewsservice.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 20th Anniversary Population Health Colloquium
  151. 2019-11-13 From: "Speaker Corey Johnson" <SpeakerJohnson-at-council.nyc.gov> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?A_Master_Plan_for_Our_City=27s_Street?=
  152. 2019-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [653360]Re: mrbrklyn.com
  153. 2019-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [OpenDNS] Re: mrbrklyn.com
  154. 2019-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [653360]Re: mrbrklyn.com
  155. 2019-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [OpenDNS] Re: mrbrklyn.com
  156. 2019-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [653360]Re: mrbrklyn.com
  157. 2019-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] In the Beginning... almost
  158. 2019-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  159. 2019-11-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  160. 2019-11-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  161. 2019-11-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 18 THOUSAND new city workers to call 311
  162. 2019-11-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] EmergingTech is Hiring CompTIA Certified Trainers
  163. 2019-11-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Complaint from NYLUG
  164. 2019-11-20 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Complaint from NYLUG
  165. 2019-11-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Complaint from NYLUG
  166. 2019-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Sharecroppers
  167. 2019-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] ignorance and the media - ted talk
  168. 2019-11-18 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #434 - How is Perl and Raku doing?
  169. 2019-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Your Brooklyn Congressmen at Work
  170. 2019-11-20 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Complaint from NYLUG
  171. 2019-11-20 From: "Yachna Narang" <yachnan-at-etalentnetwork.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Urgent need for Oracle and Unix/Linux Systems
  172. 2019-11-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Director Of Information Technology at MTA
  173. 2019-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Complaint from NYLUG
  174. 2019-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nice cheat sheet for terminal
  175. 2019-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] virish and virt-manager fails to installs
  176. 2019-11-25 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #435 - Vue.js and Perl
  177. 2019-11-25 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #435 - Vue.js and Perl
  178. 2019-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] from my websites - first page
  179. 2019-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] libvirt bug report
  180. 2019-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Happy Thanksgiving

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