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DATE | 2019-11-05 |
FROM | ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt)
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SUBJECT | Re: A GNU “social contract”?
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Nov 5 21:32:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAD6163F63; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:32:26 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0996E161134; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:30:46 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:30:46 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20191106023046.GL20969-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370D3163F90 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 13:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:47242 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS3TB-0001jG-5n for ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 13:22:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53486) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS3Mw-0003OY-5p for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 13:15:56 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55842) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iS3Ms-0006Nr-K3; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 13:15:52 -0500 Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iS3Ms-00023f-9a; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 13:15:50 -0500 From: ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) To: Samuel Thibault In-reply-to: <20191105175804.n2cfxudgbnglfhus-at-function> (message from Samuel Thibault on Tue, 5 Nov 2019 18:58:04 +0100) Subject: Re: A GNU “social contract”? References: <20191024205045.bcyrofzmzoo2kvgf-at-function> <6bf7acc244a2d4667eb0c10a40c5667d4734891b.camel-at-klomp.org> <87zhhpq684.fsf_-_-at-gnu.org> <87ftjdj31j.fsf-at-gnu.org> <20191028202826.GA9517-at-jurong> <87y2wzdfiq.fsf-at-gnu.org> <20191101171929.GA9534-at-jurong> <875zjy36nc.fsf-at-gnu.org> <20191105175804.n2cfxudgbnglfhus-at-function> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 13:15:50 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list X-UID: 63574 Cc: ludo-at-gnu.org, gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
> You send a patch, you contribute documentation, you work on Savannah, > you don't sign or agree to anything to become a member of the GNU > project.
That wholy depends on what you call a "member". I indeed don't consider that you'd have to sign or agree on anything (except copyright things) to be able to send patches, contribute documentations, work on Savannah, etc. But you'd have to agree on the GNU goals if you are to take responsibilities in the GNU project, such as being maintainer of a package (as in: responsible for the package, and not only a contributor).
Recall, this text says "All current GNU Project members have agreed to uphold these values." -- be it the idea of a free operating system, the notion of free software, or anything in the document.
The error here is that the confusing between agreeing to the goal and philosophy of the project, and just following/applying the policies of the GNU project.
One does not need to agree with anything, or uphold anything, to follow a policy. This has always been the case when you become a GNU maintainer, all you need to do is to follow or apply either what we have written down, or if something is requested by Chief GNUisance, not uphold or fight for the values of the GNU project, or even agree with anything the GNU project and free software stands for. _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
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