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DATE | 2019-11-05 |
FROM | Brandon Invergo
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Nov 5 21:31:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D076163F5C; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:31:10 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3DA5E161134; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:26:55 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:26:55 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20191106022655.GV20969-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F98161132 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 17:07:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:50888 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS6zT-0005Vq-Sn for ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 17:07:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37055) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS6CN-0005Vk-8f for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 16:17:12 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59610) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iS6CN-00068H-1f; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 16:17:11 -0500 Received: from cpc88596-newt36-2-0-cust770.19-3.cable.virginm.net ([82.17.199.3]:51968 helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iS6CM-00010Y-8h; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 16:17:10 -0500 References: <87o8xsan5b.fsf-at-gnu.org> <87bltq9i7l.fsf-at-gnu.org> User-agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 26.3 From: Brandon Invergo To: "Thompson\, David" In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 21:17:07 +0000 Message-ID: <878sou9g6k.fsf-at-gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list X-UID: 63602 Cc: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
Thompson, David writes:
> I hope you can see the terrible optics this has. Something has > happened behind the scenes, shortly after you and Mike became > moderators, that makes it appear as though Carlos and Mark were > retaliated against for being critical of GNU leadership.
Optics are funny...there are just so many angles to consider.
> I appreciated what they were doing and think they should be reinstated > as moderators. I find it difficult to trust the current moderators as > things stand now.
Aside from turning off the global "emergency" moderation bit, I've stuck to the same general guidelines that they were using. Since I started actively moderating yesterday morning (GMT), the only person being attacked on-list is me, which I am taking in stride. I've even allowed through posts by non-subscribers to allow the criticism of me. If there's anything else that you think I'm coming up short on in my moderation, please tell me and I'll try to improve.
We do have a problem with someone under moderation who is sending messages off-list. It probably would have happened eventually anyway, no matter who was moderating. Anyway, I do not know how to moderate that. If you have suggestions on how to handle it, I'm all ears.
-- -brandon _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
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