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DATE | 2019-11-15 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [653360]Re: mrbrklyn.com
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Nov 19 06:15:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1961716114A; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 06:15:45 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Received: from [10.0.0.62] (www.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.83]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4B0161134; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 15:11:21 -0500 (EST) From: Ruben Safir To: Umbrella Support , hangout References: <938WG5OMWX-at-zendesk.com> <938WG5OMWX_5dce9b3f4a6f5_38a93fd0e00bcf20212676_sprut-at-zendesk.com> <0b262178-fb09-1d05-3efb-98079d914947-at-mrbrklyn.com> <938WG5OMWX_5dcea9907d5b6_6c4e3f82682bcf1c2536d0_sprut-at-zendesk.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 15:09:22 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <938WG5OMWX_5dcea9907d5b6_6c4e3f82682bcf1c2536d0_sprut-at-zendesk.com> Content-Language: en-US Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [653360]Re: mrbrklyn.com X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
On 11/15/19 8:35 AM, Umbrella Support wrote: > Ruben, > Thank you for the followup. We have checked the page, and the fact of > the matter is that this particular article doesn't contain an actual > article. =
No, because it is part of a larger article
> The only content on the site is a form to sign up for an account with > the New York Times. Which leaves your site, which is *not* the New > York Times, hosting a page to sign up for the New York Times. Even if > the forms are inactive, you're hosting a page with every classic > hallmark of a phishing page. =
No, it is not.=C2=A0 It is a classic example of downloading a page for refe= rence
> I'd also point out that though the New York Times is freely accessible, =
No it is not freely accessible, and regardless, it is my right to dowload informaiton for my own purposed under fair use... and there is=C2= =A0 NO violtaiton of copyright.=C2=A0 I know, I have lawyers on this, and we ha= ve been in the copyright political arena for decades.
Aside which, that is not for you to judge.=C2=A0 You have zero standing in this matter.
> you re-hosting that page without their permission would technically > count as a violation of copyright.
No, it is not.
You are accusing me of publically being a phishing site, for which I am 100% not doing and for which the facts of such are obvious, ad reckognized by you, according to your own email.=C2=A0 It is NOT possible to be a phishing site when the forms got back to the original publisher.=C2=A0 It is just copying existing links, and you admit yourself that the artificial that originaled with the NY Times returns BACK to the NY Times and that furthermore, that the link itself is dead, making it impossible to phish anything.=C2=A0 Your comment about copyright, aside from being legally wrong, has NO BARING on this conversation and nothing to do with your libelous accusation towards me.
This is my legal notice to you that you are libeling me, and your email that you are returning to me is PROOF that you understand that I am not hosting any phishing sites, nor does my site pose any threat to the pubic.
You are being demanded to remove me from your database.=C2=A0 Please give me the physical address of your legal department so I can follow this up with legal notice to them as well.
I expect your next email to confirm that you are removing the libel on your website and service immediately.
Ruben Safir
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stegille, Nov 15, 05:35 PST
Ruben, Thank you for the followup. We have checked the page, and the fact of the matter is that this particular article doesn't contain an actual article. The only content on the site is a form to sign up for an account with the New York Times. Which leaves your site, which is *not* the New York Times, hosting a page to sign up for the New York Times. Even if the forms are inactive, you're hosting a page with every classic hallmark of a phishing page. I'd also point out that though the New York Times is freely accessible, you re-hosting that page without their permission would technically count as a violation of copyright.  
Moreover, we are not the only security engine flagging your site as such, as you'll note here: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/8558549f65bc08a97190b32358f91cd76c6745a0= 47cb795e73562bd529b2c8ae/detection
You're *only* recourse at this point to get the phishing categorization removed, is to remove the document in question, and I'd encourage you doing so for any other log on pages you may be re-hosting as well. If you're wanting to archive these still, I'd recommend doing so via screenshots rather than hosting a copy of the actual page itself. Thank you, Steve Gillespie Customer Support Engineer US East Cisco Umbrella
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facebook, Nov 15, 05:06 PST
Your security team is very wrong.=C2=A0 There is no fishing links.=C2=A0 Th= ere is a copy of a NY Time's article, as is the entire resources section, which is nothing more than copies of political articles that I have archived for decades.=C2=A0 ALL the forms you might see there are DEAD.
IN FACT, the form which is part of a NY Times article that was simply archived whole in its original, untouched format, returns back to the NY Times itself.
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