MESSAGE
DATE | 2019-11-05 |
FROM | Jean Louis
|
SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
|
From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Nov 5 21:29:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C39416113A; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:29:21 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A2BD1161150; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:25:04 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:25:04 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20191106022504.GH20969-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBCB161132 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 18:44:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:51772 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS8Uv-0008Je-3A for ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:44:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS8UA-0007PT-Gt for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:43:44 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iS8U8-0006Sv-A0 for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:43:42 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:43137) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iS8U6-00065Y-5a for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:43:38 -0500 Received: from protected.rcdrun.com ([::ffff:31.223.149.156]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1) by stw1.rcdrun.com with UTF8ESMTPSA id 0000000000057D75.000000005DC20929.00003203; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 16:43:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1001) by protected.rcdrun.com with local id 00000000000CC577.000000005DC20928.00006807; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 00:43:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 00:43:36 +0100 From: Jean Louis To: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Message-ID: <20191105234336.GT17190-at-protected.rcdrun.com> References: <6bf7acc244a2d4667eb0c10a40c5667d4734891b.camel-at-klomp.org> <87zhhpq684.fsf_-_-at-gnu.org> <87ftjdj31j.fsf-at-gnu.org> <20191028202826.GA9517-at-jurong> <87y2wzdfiq.fsf-at-gnu.org> <20191101171929.GA9534-at-jurong> <20191105210652.GB3454-at-jurong> <7e4end9s.321942-at-gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7e4end9s.321942-at-gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by courier 1.0.6 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.170.207.13 X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list X-UID: 63619 Cc: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?b?QSBHTlUg4oCcc29jaWFsIGNvbnRyYWN04oCd?= =?utf-8?q?=3F?= X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
* Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> [2019-11-05 23:57]: > Andreas Enge wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 11:13:57PM +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: > >> > We want to give everyone the opportunity to contribute to our effort= s on any of the many tasks that require work. We welcome all contributors= =E2=80=A6 > >> > >> Many GNU subprojects value =E2=80=98recordkeeping=E2=80=99 (per Prof. = Moglen [2]) and =E2=80=98protection for FSF=E2=80=99 (per -at-ams-at-gnu.org [3])= more than giving anyone an opportunity to contribute. Are you calling for= change in priorities? If yes, I would appreciate it, if you name few conc= rete steps. > > > > No change of priorities, I think, but promoting non-discrimination and = inclusiveness. The emphasis is on give *opportunity* to contribute (...) *= regardless* of their gender etc. (...) *harassment-free* (...). It does no= t mean that bad contributions need to be accepted, or those where the copyr= ight assignments are not done correctly, and so on. > =
> So that=CA=BCs exactly what I was afraid of. > =
> Instead of making GNU more welcoming place by lessening the burden of for= malities, you in fact propose GNU to withdraw deeper into itself by inventi= ng ideology-driven =E2=80=98contracts=E2=80=99. And in order to add an ins= ult to injury =E2=80=94 to cover it with Western buzzwords like =E2=80=98in= clusiveness=E2=80=99. :-\
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_exclusion#Social_inclusion
"Social exclusion, marginalization or social marginalisation is the social disadvantage and relegation to the fringe of society. It is a term used widely in Europe and was first used in France."
But GNU was never discriminatory.
If anyone claims different, give me the facts.
Jean _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
|
|