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DATE | 2019-11-05 |
FROM | Andreas
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Nov 5 12:24:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF48E163F59; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:24:56 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 401B0161177; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:24:14 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:24:14 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20191105172414.GF16573-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE1B161132 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 11:57:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:46358 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS28m-000622-Q1 for ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 11:57:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33307) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS21t-0004On-B5 for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 11:50:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iS21r-0002dy-Px for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 11:50:04 -0500 Received: from smtpq6.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net ([212.54.42.169]:48796) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iS21r-0002cn-Jo for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 11:50:03 -0500 Received: from [212.54.42.135] (helo=smtp11.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq6.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS21m-0002KV-Fu for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 17:49:58 +0100 Received: from g59070.upc-g.chello.nl ([80.57.59.70] helo=debian.local) by smtp11.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS21m-0003nk-A3 for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 17:49:58 +0100 Message-ID: <1572972596.4630.34.camel-at-softwarelibre.nl> From: Andreas To: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 17:49:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87imnyz6af.fsf-at-gnu.org> References: <87o8xsan5b.fsf-at-gnu.org> <87eeyozltf.fsf-at-gnu.org> <87ftj2612x.fsf-at-gnu.org> <87pni6xzi2.fsf-at-gnu.org> <87imnyz6af.fsf-at-gnu.org> X-Mailer: Evolution 3.20.5-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SourceIP: 80.57.59.70 X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: 0.0 X-Ziggo-spamreport: CMAE Analysis: v=2.3 cv=GKl27dFK c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=3rNMXx9fCWX9Nv7qCejn2g==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=MeAgGD-zjQ4A:10 a=XJ9YhGM5qTU7fcsJk-EA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.54.42.169 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 11:57:08 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list X-UID: 63561 Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list moderation X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
> I=E2=80=99m surprised it=E2=80=99s news to you that Ruben (among others) = is attacking > people personally; that=E2=80=99s something you could have learned from t= he > previous moderators.
Maybe their definition of "personal attack" is broader and not quite as specific as yours or the previous moderators.
> How did it fail?=C2=A0=C2=A0What do you suggest regarding elephants in th= is > room? > Who are you accusing of what, to be clear?
>From the mail you're replying to: "This is not a place to discuss other people. This is a place to discuss GNU."
Accusations, alleged or otherwise, are perhaps best requested and shared in private.
> I=E2=80=99m baffled that you can be so assertive and dismissive of the > moderation work that was done before=C2=A0
I don't see anything dismissive in this thread. It was stated that emergency moderation was no longer required or desired. Your assertion that moderation was clearly still needed was addressed, sufficiently I think.
-Andreas _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
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