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| DATE | 2019-11-03 |
| FROM | Alexandre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Garreau
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] List posting rules
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Le samedi 2 novembre 2019, 20:01:24 CET Carlos O'Donell a =C3=A9crit :
> I don't see why I should not be a moderator. Everyone has some kind of
> bias. Moderation is a difficult task.
To begin with, indeed everybody is to be biased, in the end=E2=80=A6 but wh=
at kind of =
bias? Someone not having signed might as well be *anywhere* in the spectrum =
between the Joint statement and RMS himself. Hence this is less evidently =
biased, as anyone could be, in this =E2=80=94unfortunately heated=E2=80=94 =
dispute be more =
=E2=80=9Cneutral=E2=80=9D, less extreme or =E2=80=9Cbiased=E2=80=9D as you.
> Brandon Invergo and Mike Gerwitz are also moderators, specifically to
> help avoid this kind of bias.
Afaik, this was a place of lax moderation, until then. *Adding* moderators=
is =
likely to go in the (until then denounced) direction of growing censorship,=
a =
direction that might be biased against one party or another. That could ve=
ry =
well go in censorship escalation into muting everybody. Or maybe they migh=
t =
be less prone to censor?
Afaiu, adding moderator is likely to make an inclusive OR of decisions, tha=
t =
is a sum of censorship. It would be reassuring to hear it=E2=80=99s going =
to be an =
AND, so it=E2=80=99s a *product* of censorship (you would agree on moderati=
on and only =
censor those you both agree to put moderation on).
> > For example, given that the declared purpose of this is list is to talk
> > about governance, Sandra Loosemore's messages were in violation of the
> =
> > following rule, and yet they were approved:
> The purpose of this list is spelled out in the list description.
> Sandra didn't post a discussion about governance, she didn't talk
> about restructuring the GNU Project. She spoke only about existing
> leadership.
On a governance thread. And even so, then we can freely attack people if =
we=E2=80=99re not anymore talking about governance in the same mail (you sh=
ould =
release more mails then), and discuss about governance however we want if w=
e =
don=E2=80=99t talk about specific people, right?
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