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Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Kind Communication Guidelines versus
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> You are very, very wrong. We are trying very hard to stay within GNU,
> but the feedback we have received so far on GNU mail lists suggests
> that we are not wanted here.
This just continues with a bunch of half truths followed by
blatant lies. Who has given you feedback that you are unwelcome. And
btw, you are talking like you speak for a group of people. Who exactly
is this group that is search for ways to remain in GNU but are getting
negative feedback. What and who is giving you negative feedback.
This story, as you write it, is unbelievable.
> Keep in mind that *we* have to justify to our friends and colleagues
> why we support, through our paid and unpaid work, a project that
> refuses to distance itself from a leader who has bizarre notions about
> consent. This is the reality for us.
You don't have to do any such thing. Nobody is asking you why you work
for an organization headed by Richard. They don't. I know, it is
bizzarre for you understand, but the braoder world couldn't care less
about RMS and couldn't pick him out of a line up.
Aside from that, RMS has no such "bizzarre notions" about sex and
consent. What is bizzarre is that you are fixated on a a falsehood,
propagated by a lyer.
> Looking back over the last 18 months or so, I am no longer sure if
> people join GNU because they want to work towards a world of free
> software, or if GNU is simply the pretext they need to label other
> people as morally corrupt or wrong,
So that is the second false accusation that you peppered you email with,
and somehow this is allowed on a public mailing list.
There is no corruption and nothing morally wrong with GNU or its
leadership, and your saying that it is, makes you very suspect.
Their is nothing morally wrong with GNU, and there never was, or its
> downright evil,
I think this is the point where the term hysterical becomes
at no time has GNU been evil, or run by evil people.
> and generally
> bully them,
Nobody are GNU, from RMS down ever bullied ANYONE... period.
>while viewing themselves as morally superior.
GNU is an elitist organization that promotes that all software be Free.
But anyone can join.
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that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
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