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DATE | 2019-11-05 |
FROM | Brandon Invergo
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was:
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Nov 5 21:32:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E72163F72; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:32:31 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 625FA163F5C; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:31:03 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:31:03 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20191106023103.GM20969-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455A4163F8F for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:59:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:47070 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS37G-0001la-Vo for ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 12:59:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48948) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS37A-0001i2-Ox for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 12:59:38 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55544) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iS377-0007jB-JS; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 12:59:34 -0500 Received: from [144.173.111.41] (port=56946 helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iS377-0005uP-74; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 12:59:33 -0500 References: <5ec38bda-be9c-337e-ec18-a3b983a68b73-at-runbox.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 26.3 From: Brandon Invergo To: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 17:59:31 +0000 Message-ID: <87ftj2xkzg.fsf-at-gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list X-UID: 63573 Cc: Sandra Loosemore Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Is negative publicity always harmful? (was: Women and GNU and RMS) X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
Dmitry Alexandrov writes:
> Sandra Loosemore wrote: >> The absolute worst thing the public-facing representative of *any* >> organization can do is bring negative publicity to the organization >> about things that are irrelevant or contrary to the organization's >> mission. > > I=CA=BCm afraid, you conflated two points. Publicity that undermine the > core competency of an organization =E2=80=94 yes, is perhaps is the most > harmful thing for it. > > While negative publicity on irrelevant topics is either much less > harmful, or sometimes even beneficial. > >> As a result of RMS's comments, all of a sudden the public >> conversation about the GNU project was not about how good our >> software is and how free software is taking over the world and >> beneficial to everybody > > Dr. Stallman has been always, in almost every his speech, pointed out, > that in terms of publicity everything is still so bad, that he has to > struggle to make it known that GNU and free software movement in > general merely exist. And that they are not the same as Linux=C2=AE and > =E2=80=98open source=E2=80=99, in particular. > > Under that conditions, any kind of public attention to GNU should be > welcoming. > >> It's been a public relations disaster for the GNU project. :-( > > Time will tell.
As I previously requested, please let's drop discussions of particular people, especially when it comes to what they said or did outside of GNU. I know you are not attacking but standing in rms's defense, however at this point it's only going to stir up dying embers.
Can we just leave it there?
-- -brandon _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
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