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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/26/technology/26MUSI.html?pagewanted=print&position=top
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February 26, 2003 AOL Offering Music Catalog for Downloads By SAUL HANSELL

In the strongest attempt yet to create a legitimate alternative to free
music-trading sites, America Online will introduce a service today that
lets users download and listen to a large catalog of songs.

For $8.95 a month, users will be able to listen to a catalog of music,
now at 250,000 songs and growing, on their computers. Moving songs to
CD's or portable players will cost more.

AOL is selling a version of a service from MusicNet, which is a consortium
of RealNetworks; the BMG unit of Bertelsmann; EMI; and Warner Music,
which like America Online is a unit of AOL Time Warner. AOL refused to
introduce MusicNet's first product a year ago, arguing that it was too
hard to use and did not have enough music.

Now AOL says that the service has improved enough to offer it to its
27 million members. That represents the most important test yet for
the concept of selling music as a subscription service rather than as
discrete discs.

For AOL, MusicNet also represents a crucial part of its strategy to
increase its tiny share of the market for Internet users who connect
over high-speed, or broadband, connections. AOL is already promoting
its free music content, which includes hundreds of songs, videos and
original recordings of musicians.

In the next few weeks, AOL is going to introduce an improved $15-a-month
service, with a bundle of content and services meant for people
who already buy broadband connections from their cable or telephone
companies. That offering will include a limited version of MusicNet that
will let users download 20 songs a month and listen to another 20 one
time. Others can buy this limited version for $3.95 a month.

The standard $8.95 version of the service will allow users to listen to
an unlimited number of songs on demand while they are connected to the
Internet through a technology called streaming. They can also download
the songs to their computers for higher sound quality and the ability
to listen to them when not on the Internet.

Unlike music downloaded from Napster, the defunct free music sharing
service, and its successors like KaZaA, a subscriber can listen to
MusicNet's downloads on no more than two computers. They also cannot be
copied to other devices or sent to other people.

But a premium version of the service, for $17.95 a month, gives users
the right to burn 10 songs a month onto a recordable CD. These will be
in the standard, unprotected format used by all music CD's, and thus
those songs could be copied, converted to a popular format like MP3 and
sent over the Internet at will.

So far, legitimate music download services have not been a success with
consumers, not only because they charge a fee but also because the first
versions had very limited numbers of songs and even more draconian rules
about what users could do with them.

MusicNet initially had songs only from its owners and some independent
labels. Its main rival, PressPlay, was formed by Sony Music and Universal
Music.

By late last year, MusicNet and PressPlay each reached agreements with
all the major labels and many independent labels as well. An independent
service sold by Listen.com, called Rhapsody, also allows users to listen
to songs from all the major labels and to burn some of them to CD's for
$9.95 a month. Rhapsody is trying to attract attention with a limited-time
offer that allows users to download individual songs at 49 cents, half
its regular price.

With its $8.95 standard tier, AOL is undercutting the $9.95 basic price
of PressPlay, which is mainly sold by Yahoo and Microsoft. The only
other version of MusicNet, offered by RealOne, costs $4.95 a month for
100 downloads and 100 one-time streams.

So far, none of these services have attracted more than a few tens of
thousands of subscribers. Somewhat more popular are online radio services
that let users pick the style or even artist they want to listen to but
not the actual song. MusicMatch, for example, has 120,000 subscribers
to its radio service at $2.95 to $4.95 a month.

Kevin Conroy, the AOL senior vice president for entertainment, said
its version of MusicNet would be far more popular because it would be
integrated into the AOL service. Users will simply add the MusicNet fee
to their existing AOL account and credit card numbers. And for those
who subscribe to the MusicNet service, AOL's music programming, which
attracts 12 million users a month, will be laced with links that will
start songs playing.

Mr. Conroy added that he thought that even some users of KaZaA would be
attracted because AOL's service downloads faster and does not have the
errors and delays of the free music trading services.

" Right now it takes 8 or 10 searches to find what you are looking for on
services like KaZaA because so many files are mislabled," he said. "We
have forced people to do illegal things because we have not offered an
easy, convenient mainstream way for them to do what they wanted."

AOL said that it had rights to another 80,000 songs that it would add
to the service in coming months. This represents about half the popular
music that is now in circulation. Much of the most popular material,
from artists like Madonna and the Beatles, has not been made available
on these downloading services, however.

But new artists generally sign deals that give labels the electronic
rights to their works. For example, "Come Away With Me'` by Norah Jones,
which won the Grammy for album of the year on Sunday, is available on the
service for listening and downloading, but it cannot be burned to a CD.

The labels, artists and music publishers are paid a share of the monthly
fees on all of these services in proportion to how much their songs are
listened to. They also get a share of the fee paid when songs are burned
to CD's.

Paul-Jon McNealy, the research director for media at Gartner G2, said that
with the latest releases of MusicNet and PressPlay, the music industry
has eliminated most, but not all, barriers to creating an online service
that will attract music fans.

"This is close to what people will find palatable," he said. The MusicNet
on AOL service, he said, will be a good introduction to online music
for a mainstream audience, but the limitations are still significant.

"People want to buy their music once and own it forever," he said.

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  1. 2003-03-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SIRUS
  2. 2003-03-01 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] SIRUS
  3. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SIRUS
  4. 2003-03-01 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use
  5. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  6. 2003-03-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  7. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  8. 2003-03-01 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use
  9. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Digital Music
  10. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DRM HEaring, call for witnesses
  11. 2003-03-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Humor, Don MArti Style
  12. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SIRUS
  13. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  14. 2003-03-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  15. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Strangly enough, the viao sound works
  16. 2003-03-02 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New Yorkers For Fair Us
  17. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New Yorkers For Fair Use
  18. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New Yorkers For Fair Use
  19. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Radio Show
  20. 2003-03-02 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai
  21. 2003-03-02 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai
  22. 2003-03-02 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai
  23. 2003-03-02 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  24. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  25. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  26. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Mail possibilities for the group.
  27. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Message from Brett -- Horray
  28. 2003-03-02 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Yorkers For Fair Use
  29. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Meeting
  30. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Meeting
  31. 2003-03-02 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show
  32. 2003-03-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  33. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] That's interesting - The registration date is the same date
  34. 2003-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Digital Rights Meeting at 92nd Street Y
  35. 2003-03-03 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Re: [hangout] Digital Rights Meeting at 92nd Street Y
  36. 2003-03-03 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) SANS Alert - Critical Vulnerability in Sendmail and a Snort Vulnerability
  37. 2003-03-03 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) SANS Alert - Critical Vulnerability in Sendmail and a Snort Vulnerability
  38. 2003-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Digital Rights Meeting at 92nd Street Y
  39. 2003-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Chamber of Commerce Network Meeting at Noon
  40. 2003-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] KEVON MILANI Pagoing
  41. 2003-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show
  42. 2003-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  43. 2003-03-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Web Site Activity
  44. 2003-03-04 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Accounting Technology
  45. 2003-03-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Next Free Software Business Expo
  46. 2003-03-04 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Accounting Technology Article
  47. 2003-03-04 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: NY Fair Use/NYLXS Meeting
  48. 2003-03-04 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [learn] partition tools
  49. 2003-03-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Spam Con of the month
  50. 2003-03-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Web Site Activity
  51. 2003-03-05 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] bash history
  52. 2003-03-05 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] bash history
  53. 2003-03-05 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] bash history
  54. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] bash history
  55. 2003-03-05 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] bash history
  56. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] bash history
  57. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] bash history
  58. 2003-03-05 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] bash history
  59. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] bash history
  60. 2003-03-05 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] bash history
  61. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] School Board Meeting?
  62. 2003-03-05 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] School Board Meeting?
  63. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] bash history
  64. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Evening Meeting
  65. 2003-03-05 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] grant info
  66. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfeast
  67. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jessica needs papers
  68. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linuxonwallstreet
  69. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS
  70. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS-NY Fair Use - Trip to Washington
  71. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS-NY Fair Use - Trip to Washington
  72. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show
  73. 2003-03-05 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [ Free Software Chamber of Commerce ] FSCC Evening Meeting
  74. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] School Board Meeting?
  75. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Identity Management architect/engineer, United States, NJ, Bedminster]
  76. 2003-03-06 Bill Putney <bputney-at-effective-tech.com> Re: [hangout] Bin laden
  77. 2003-03-06 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Bin laden
  78. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bin laden
  79. 2003-03-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Radio Show
  80. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Radio Show
  81. 2003-03-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Radio Show
  82. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Radio Show
  83. 2003-03-06 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Radio Show
  84. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Rules Commitee Status
  85. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Rules Commitee Status
  86. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Desktop Linux
  87. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Egov - Oppurtunity
  88. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Looks like an NYLXS Social Event
  89. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft Anti-competitive Practices: Egov-OS
  90. 2003-03-06 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] OS in Government article
  91. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] rhn-admin-at-rhn.redhat.com: RHN Errata Alert: Updated OpenSSL packages fix timing attack
  92. 2003-03-06 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Rules Commitee Status
  93. 2003-03-06 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] thing are starting to move get on the train
  94. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Mark_Andrews-at-isc.org: Internet Software Consortium Security Advisory: 5 March 2003]
  95. 2003-03-07 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Journal
  96. 2003-03-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Rules Commitee Status
  97. 2003-03-07 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Subject: [hangout] NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  98. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Brooklyn Installfest/Radio Show
  99. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Brooklyn Installfest/Radio Show
  100. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Journal
  101. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYU Event - "Wireless Communications and the Future of Cities"
  102. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  103. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  104. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  105. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Brooklyn Installfest/Radio Show
  106. 2003-03-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: NYSIA HotWire, Week of March 10, 2003]
  107. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [info-at-j2jnetwork.com: Invitation to attend a J2J Network Focus Group on the establishment of a Career Center]
  108. 2003-03-08 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> one more thing Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  109. 2003-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: one more thing Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  110. 2003-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: one more thing Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  111. 2003-03-08 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: one more thing Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  112. 2003-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: one more thing Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  113. 2003-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fishing
  114. 2003-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Flash Media Player Security Warning
  115. 2003-03-08 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  116. 2003-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] RIAA Website
  117. 2003-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Software Roots - Collaberation
  118. 2003-03-09 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Fishing
  119. 2003-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fishing
  120. 2003-03-09 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] Fishing
  121. 2003-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Nominations
  122. 2003-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] The Balance Act
  123. 2003-03-09 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] The Mayor
  124. 2003-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS.com Registration
  125. 2003-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show Tonight
  126. 2003-03-09 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] The Balance Act
  127. 2003-03-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The Mayor
  128. 2003-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] While you were asleep, the internet was outlawed by the FCC
  129. 2003-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] While you were asleep, the internet was outlawed by the FCC
  130. 2003-03-10 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] NYLXS.com Registration
  131. 2003-03-10 From: "William Brent" <wbrent-at-finepoint.com> RE: [hangout] The Mayor
  132. 2003-03-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Everything in the Universe might not be what it seems
  133. 2003-03-10 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Grant Tutorials
  134. 2003-03-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show - Now archived
  135. 2003-03-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show - Now archived
  136. 2003-03-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: we need to start this now!
  137. 2003-03-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Unix 2 Start rescheduled for NEXT Week
  138. 2003-03-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washignton DC trip - Egov-OS
  139. 2003-03-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washignton DC trip - Egov-OS
  140. 2003-03-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washignton DC trip - Egov-OS
  141. 2003-03-10 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] we need to start this now!
  142. 2003-03-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: one more thing Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  143. 2003-03-11 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] NYSDL Training Disapproval
  144. 2003-03-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYSDL Training Disapproval
  145. 2003-03-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  146. 2003-03-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  147. 2003-03-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I'm heading out to the Killarny Rose - See you later
  148. 2003-03-11 Bruce Perens <bruce-at-perens.com> Subject: [hangout] MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  149. 2003-03-11 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] NYSDL Training Disapproval
  150. 2003-03-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  151. 2003-03-11 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  152. 2003-03-11 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  153. 2003-03-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  154. 2003-03-11 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  155. 2003-03-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  156. 2003-03-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  157. 2003-03-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  158. 2003-03-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The new TIVO from AOL/Time-Warner (sniff can you smell DRM)
  159. 2003-03-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brett and Jay - Settlement Tomorrow
  160. 2003-03-12 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] freedom to tinker
  161. 2003-03-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Headline - Microsoft 2.0: Meet the gentler software giant
  162. 2003-03-12 Bruce Perens <bruce-at-perens.com> Subject: [hangout] MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum; Response to Dave Williams
  163. 2003-03-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Meeting
  164. 2003-03-12 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] OSS and Inovation
  165. 2003-03-12 Bruce Perens <bruce-at-perens.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  166. 2003-03-12 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  167. 2003-03-12 Dave Williams <djw23-at-drexel.edu> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  168. 2003-03-12 Dave Williams <djw23-at-drexel.edu> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum; Response to Dave Williams
  169. 2003-03-12 Dave Williams <djw23-at-drexel.edu> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender]
  170. 2003-03-12 Dave Williams <djw23-at-drexel.edu> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender]
  171. 2003-03-13 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] blog software?
  172. 2003-03-13 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Program reminder
  173. 2003-03-13 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] we need to start this now!
  174. 2003-03-13 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] we need to start this now!
  175. 2003-03-13 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] blog software?
  176. 2003-03-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brett Wynkoop threatens to sue NYLXS for use of our own organizations
  177. 2003-03-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brett Wynkoop threatens to sue NYLXS for use of our own organizations
  178. 2003-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Customes
  179. 2003-03-13 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] I believe in the power of noise
  180. 2003-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Mission
  181. 2003-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS/NY Fair Use Defense Fund
  182. 2003-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: I want peace because...
  183. 2003-03-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: plot thickens
  184. 2003-03-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Urgent Help needed to fend off Cybersquaters
  185. 2003-03-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washington DC
  186. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] blog software?
  187. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  188. 2003-03-14 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  189. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  190. 2003-03-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  191. 2003-03-14 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Washington Status
  192. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lawsuit from Jay
  193. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  194. 2003-03-14 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  195. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  196. 2003-03-14 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  197. 2003-03-14 Bruce Perens <bruce-at-perens.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  198. 2003-03-14 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  199. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washington Status
  200. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] We need someone with a Credit Card and a License
  201. 2003-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Can anyone assist/installfest/dual booting linux ipaq3670 on IBM micro-drive?
  202. 2003-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What's the procedure for mail forwarding from nylxs?
  203. 2003-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Who's in charge of the business improvement thing? Please contact me.
  204. 2003-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Who's in charge of the next business demo? Please contact me.
  205. 2003-03-15 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Can anyone assist/installfest/dual booting linux ipaq3670 on IBM micro-drive?
  206. 2003-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Macro - call me please
  207. 2003-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New collage on the front page
  208. 2003-03-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  209. 2003-03-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  210. 2003-03-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  211. 2003-03-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  212. 2003-03-15 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] What's the procedure for mail forwarding from nylxs?
  213. 2003-03-15 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Who's in charge of the business improvement thing? Please contact me.
  214. 2003-03-15 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Who's in charge of the next business demo? Please contact me.
  215. 2003-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: What distros will be available at installfest?
  216. 2003-03-16 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: What distros will be available at installfest?
  217. 2003-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: What distros will be available at installfest?
  218. 2003-03-16 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] Re: What distros will be available at installfest?
  219. 2003-03-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Classes Beginning this week from the FSI
  220. 2003-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use Planning meeting Tomorrow
  221. 2003-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Election General Membership Meeting
  222. 2003-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Radio Show - Tomorrow at 8PM
  223. 2003-03-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show On The Air Now http://www.nylxs.com/radio/
  224. 2003-03-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: What distros will be available at installfest?
  225. 2003-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] TCP/IP Study Group starting Next Sunday
  226. 2003-03-16 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] What distros will be available at installfest?
  227. 2003-03-17 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfeast and Distro CD
  228. 2003-03-17 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] Need a local source for Cat 5 wire and wall jacks
  229. 2003-03-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Shaed Source Egovos
  230. 2003-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] eGovOS protest
  231. 2003-03-18 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Infomation on the NY Fair use action
  232. 2003-03-18 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Re: [hangout] Press
  233. 2003-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Static IP Internet Service (DSL/Cable)
  234. 2003-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Classes this week
  235. 2003-03-18 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] eGovOS protest
  236. 2003-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Infomation on the NY Fair use action
  237. 2003-03-18 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] PCWorld
  238. 2003-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Press
  239. 2003-03-18 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Installfeast and Distro CD
  240. 2003-03-18 From: "Derrick Lewis" <lewisdj-at-bc.edu> Subject: [hangout] Static IP Internet Service (DSL/Cable)
  241. 2003-03-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Embrace and...
  242. 2003-03-19 From: "Richard M. Stallman - Autoreply Message" <rms-autoreply-control-at-gnu.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Embrace and...
  243. 2003-03-19 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Embrace and...
  244. 2003-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Embrace and...
  245. 2003-03-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] "ASP license", egovos fiasco
  246. 2003-03-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] "ASP license", egovos fiasco
  247. 2003-03-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] "ASP license", egovos fiasco
  248. 2003-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Embrace and...
  249. 2003-03-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NY fair Use Pics
  250. 2003-03-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NY fair Use Pics
  251. 2003-03-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] "ASP license"
  252. 2003-03-19 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) WindowsRefund.net: Petition targets Toshiba
  253. 2003-03-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CLASS CANCELLED TONITE - NO PERL CLASS
  254. 2003-03-19 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] donations of corporate intellectual property to nonprofit organizations
  255. 2003-03-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Elections
  256. 2003-03-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Embrace and...
  257. 2003-03-20 Jennifer Dozar <jennifer-at-orange.zorcat.com> Re: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  258. 2003-03-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lock 'em Up
  259. 2003-03-20 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) Hearing scheduled for HB 2892 (Oregon)
  260. 2003-03-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Evolution Vurnabilites - Can't be Windows like enoug :-|
  261. 2003-03-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  262. 2003-03-20 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Lock 'em Up
  263. 2003-03-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Membership List for election.
  264. 2003-03-20 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Time to Chime
  265. 2003-03-21 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] DMCA Comments
  266. 2003-03-21 Jacek Blizinski <azidog-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Evolution Vurnabilites - Can't be Windows like enoug
  267. 2003-03-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Evolution Vurnabilites - Can't be Windows like enoug :-|
  268. 2003-03-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  269. 2003-03-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  270. 2003-03-21 Bruce Perens <bruce-at-perens.com> Re: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  271. 2003-03-21 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  272. 2003-03-21 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  273. 2003-03-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA Comments
  274. 2003-03-21 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA goes under public scrutiny again
  275. 2003-03-21 jonathan jacobs <gnunewyork-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] lock 'em up
  276. 2003-03-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION
  277. 2003-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION
  278. 2003-03-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION
  279. 2003-03-22 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Re: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  280. 2003-03-22 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Nominations
  281. 2003-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Nominations
  282. 2003-03-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Article in text
  283. 2003-03-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION
  284. 2003-03-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MS EULA VRS GPL
  285. 2003-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Preliminary draft of article for NY Fair Use - egovos
  286. 2003-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Preliminary draft of article for NY Fair Use - egovos - POSTSCRIPT
  287. 2003-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION
  288. 2003-03-23 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION
  289. 2003-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNU-Darwin (IE MAC) clueless about more than one thing
  290. 2003-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Job Possibility
  291. 2003-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Journals - Where are they?
  292. 2003-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More egov-os stupidity
  293. 2003-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] WWWACS Event
  294. 2003-03-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Newsforge article
  295. 2003-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: fscc
  296. 2003-03-24 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: fscc
  297. 2003-03-24 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] fscc
  298. 2003-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MS Teaches how to right secure code
  299. 2003-03-24 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Newsforge article
  300. 2003-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: fscc
  301. 2003-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Voting Tonight!
  302. 2003-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [reply-a46-1808-2f6b114cd7-at-nl.internet.com: Your Linux Today Security Letter for March 24, 2003]
  303. 2003-03-24 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: 48 hours of efforts plus a response to Mr Wynkoop]
  304. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Red Hat Linux 9 and your certification
  305. 2003-03-25 Kevin Milani <kevin-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] Red Hat Linux 9 and your certification
  306. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Today
  307. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Today
  308. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Scene Calender for Today]
  309. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Re: Monday 18:52 24 March 2003 settlement
  310. 2003-03-25 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Red Hat Linux 9 and your certification
  311. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] RMS's comments on our article :):wq
  312. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [bingalls-at-fit-zones.com: Schools Project]
  313. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-at-ezrecruit.net: {1407}Training Systems Support Engineer opening in USA-New Jersey-Paramus]
  314. 2003-03-26 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] California Energy Market Scandel
  315. 2003-03-26 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] California Energy Market Scandel
  316. 2003-03-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] For the education committie
  317. 2003-03-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use Beginning Date
  318. 2003-03-26 bluecitabria <bluecitabria-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Red Hat Linux 9 and your certification
  319. 2003-03-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] California Energy Market Scandel
  320. 2003-03-26 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] change in policy
  321. 2003-03-26 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] For the education committie
  322. 2003-03-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use Beginning Date
  323. 2003-03-27 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  324. 2003-03-27 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  325. 2003-03-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  326. 2003-03-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Bordeux France
  327. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Disagree with Jay, and he tries to steal your organization
  328. 2003-03-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Earliest memntion of NY Fair Use
  329. 2003-03-27 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] for grant writers
  330. 2003-03-27 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] for the grant writers
  331. 2003-03-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: conference in northern france [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  332. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jays pushing me out of my own organization - because they THINK they can
  333. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] jays sectet letter (with the rest of the conversation)
  334. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use Meeting
  335. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use Meeting
  336. 2003-03-27 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Radio Show this Sunday, request for topics/co-host
  337. 2003-03-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Radio Show: Looking for a Guest Host
  338. 2003-03-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Oh No - the kiss of death ...
  339. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The beginning of the Jay attempt to steal NY Fair Use
  340. 2003-03-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  341. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Who was paying of NY Fair Use? What? Not NYLXS?
  342. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: Department of Commerce meeting on Fair Use and Consumer Rights]
  343. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: Next Steps?]
  344. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [seth.johnson-at-realmeasures.dyndns.org: Re: Department of Commerce Report]
  345. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [seth.johnson-at-realmeasures.dyndns.org: Re: Next Steps?]
  346. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [fairuse] Re: [nylug-talk] Fwd: [hangout] We are the stakholders in TEXT[ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]]
  347. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: FCC Broadcast Flag Meeting Tomorrow]
  348. 2003-03-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Philip Bond Followup
  349. 2003-03-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Philip Bond Followup
  350. 2003-03-28 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Philip Bond Followup
  351. 2003-03-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Slackware 9.0 is out!
  352. 2003-03-28 akbar <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  353. 2003-03-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  354. 2003-03-28 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  355. 2003-03-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Philip Bond Followup
  356. 2003-03-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Slackware 9.0 is out!
  357. 2003-03-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Carteblancher-at-aol.com: [fairuse] Happy Birthday NY Fair Use]
  358. 2003-03-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION
  359. 2003-03-29 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  360. 2003-03-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Press
  361. 2003-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] TCP/IP Study Group
  362. 2003-03-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Article Comments
  363. 2003-03-30 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Firewalls set to become illegal in many American states DMCA
  364. 2003-03-30 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft RPC hole could lead to DoS attacks Can we fix this with shared source?
  365. 2003-03-30 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Slashdot | Microsoft Refuses To Fix NT 4.0 Exploit
  366. 2003-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [nylxs-announce] Linux Scene Calender for Today]
  367. 2003-03-31 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Meeting Tonight??
  368. 2003-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Meeting Tonight??
  369. 2003-03-31 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS (fwd)
  370. 2003-03-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us: NYLXS in LinuxFormat MAG]
  371. 2003-03-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Grants
  372. 2003-03-31 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Meeting Tonight??
  373. 2003-03-31 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Election Results
  374. 2003-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: NYLXS Election Results
  375. 2003-03-31 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] [MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us: NYLXS in LinuxFormat MAG]
  376. 2003-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [nylxs-announce] Linux Scene Calender for Today]

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