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http://www.strategy-business.com/press/article/?ptag-ps=&art=29388245&pg=all

Why Open Source Stifles Innovation
By Peter Passell

Open Source Software: It?s Not Just a Good Idea, It?s the Law! No, you
won?t be seeing those words on bumper stickers anytime soon. But little
by little, lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians are becoming very
interested in open source, and they aren?t likely to leave its fate to
market forces. What began as a grass-roots programmer rebellion against
commercial software is rapidly evolving into a political struggle that
could retard innovation and balkanize the software market.

Software that costs nothing to license and comes with the underlying
source code available for all to see has penetrated the mainstream.
Companies as varied as Boeing, Amazon, Google, and E-Trade are using
the open source operating system Linux. Two other open source programs,
Apache (for hosting Web sites) and Sendmail (for routing e-mail), are
nearly ubiquitous.

This success has been good news for businesses, since it?s forcing
commercial software makers to price low. But the future of open source
is clouded by ideology and politics.

The copyright holders of open source software ? typically nonprofits
controlled by the principal developers ? have broad discretion to set
the terms for its use. And most are choosing to distribute under what
is called the General Public License (GPL).

Anyone is free to use GPL software (like Linux) at no charge, and is
equally free to modify it. But new software that incorporates strands
of code from GPL software must also be distributed under the GPL. This
makes it impractical to integrate ideas from GPL software in
proprietary software because anyone would be free to copy the
enhancements.

The ?viral? quality of GPL software is intentional: Proponents happily
acknowledge that the goal is to undermine incentives to create software
that carries a price tag. But for those of us without ideological
qualms about software as private property, the wall that GPL erects
between open source and proprietary software seems unfortunate.

It is especially unfortunate when government builds the walls. The U.S.
government has long been a font of research in software that has made
the leap to commercial products. But in the absence of a formal policy,
some federal software is being released under the GPL. In fact, NASA,
the Sandia National Laboratories, and the U.S. Department of Defense
have all distributed code with GPL restrictions.

It is hard to assay the damage in terms of duplicated effort or advances
in commercial software that will never be made. But the analogy to
another technology-driven industry does hammer home the point: If
federal research in medicine had been distributed under some equivalent
of the GPL, the spectacular burst of innovation in drugs and genetic
engineering by private enterprise in the last decade would have been
delayed.

The distribution of GPL software by the government is largely
inadvertent. But outside the U.S., resentment of American dominance of
software neatly dovetails with concerns about the superpower?s
disproportionate influence over high technology and foreign
government?s tendency to favor domestic software producers.

The German government has funded private German efforts to develop
security software to be licensed under an equivalent to the GPL. In
China, the People?s Daily newspaper reported that government agencies
would ?join forces to encourage strengthening of the nation?s software
industry in a bid to pry the computer industry from the grip? of
foreign commercial software companies. And Taiwan has launched an
ambitious initiative to wean computers from Windows, funding R&D in
open source software and training tens of thousands of workers in
Linux.

The growing involvement of government in open source is most immediately
the concern of the proprietary software industry. Microsoft has the
most to lose because Windows sits at the top of the software food
chain. But integrated hardware/software companies like IBM, which are
supporting open source, could also lose as they sacrifice high-margin
software licensing for scraps from the open source table.

Businesses have a stake here, too. It certainly makes sense for firms to
compare the life-cycle cost of open source and proprietary software in
their procurement decisions. But government-led success of open source
could undermine the network economies that have driven some software
market niches toward winner-take-most outcomes.

Thus, while firms may find that the advantages of using free software
outweigh the disadvantages, they have not yet had to confront the
headaches of a world in which they must worry about the compatibility
of files produced on different software platforms or about the need to
train employees to use applications for multiple platforms.

The success of open source could also retard innovation. As noted
earlier, GPL software cannot be integrated into proprietary software.
By the same token, an attenuated market for proprietary software would
reduce private incentives to invest in software development.

Open source is here to stay. But whether it will, in the end, prove a
boon to global productivity depends on how the competition with
commercial software plays out as commerce mixes with ideology,
nationalism, and special-interest politics.

The bottom line for business: Enjoy something for nothing, but be wary
of ideologues who would restrict your diet to free lunches.
--
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  1. 2003-03-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SIRUS
  2. 2003-03-01 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] SIRUS
  3. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SIRUS
  4. 2003-03-01 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use
  5. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  6. 2003-03-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  7. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  8. 2003-03-01 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use
  9. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Digital Music
  10. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DRM HEaring, call for witnesses
  11. 2003-03-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Humor, Don MArti Style
  12. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SIRUS
  13. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  14. 2003-03-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  15. 2003-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Strangly enough, the viao sound works
  16. 2003-03-02 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New Yorkers For Fair Us
  17. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New Yorkers For Fair Use
  18. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New Yorkers For Fair Use
  19. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Radio Show
  20. 2003-03-02 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai
  21. 2003-03-02 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai
  22. 2003-03-02 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai
  23. 2003-03-02 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  24. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  25. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  26. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Mail possibilities for the group.
  27. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Message from Brett -- Horray
  28. 2003-03-02 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Yorkers For Fair Use
  29. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Meeting
  30. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Meeting
  31. 2003-03-02 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show
  32. 2003-03-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  33. 2003-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] That's interesting - The registration date is the same date
  34. 2003-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Digital Rights Meeting at 92nd Street Y
  35. 2003-03-03 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Re: [hangout] Digital Rights Meeting at 92nd Street Y
  36. 2003-03-03 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) SANS Alert - Critical Vulnerability in Sendmail and a Snort Vulnerability
  37. 2003-03-03 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) SANS Alert - Critical Vulnerability in Sendmail and a Snort Vulnerability
  38. 2003-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Digital Rights Meeting at 92nd Street Y
  39. 2003-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Chamber of Commerce Network Meeting at Noon
  40. 2003-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] KEVON MILANI Pagoing
  41. 2003-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show
  42. 2003-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  43. 2003-03-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Web Site Activity
  44. 2003-03-04 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Accounting Technology
  45. 2003-03-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Next Free Software Business Expo
  46. 2003-03-04 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Accounting Technology Article
  47. 2003-03-04 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: NY Fair Use/NYLXS Meeting
  48. 2003-03-04 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [learn] partition tools
  49. 2003-03-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Spam Con of the month
  50. 2003-03-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Web Site Activity
  51. 2003-03-05 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] bash history
  52. 2003-03-05 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] bash history
  53. 2003-03-05 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] bash history
  54. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] bash history
  55. 2003-03-05 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] bash history
  56. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] bash history
  57. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] bash history
  58. 2003-03-05 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] bash history
  59. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] bash history
  60. 2003-03-05 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] bash history
  61. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] School Board Meeting?
  62. 2003-03-05 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] School Board Meeting?
  63. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] bash history
  64. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Evening Meeting
  65. 2003-03-05 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] grant info
  66. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfeast
  67. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jessica needs papers
  68. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linuxonwallstreet
  69. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS
  70. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS-NY Fair Use - Trip to Washington
  71. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS-NY Fair Use - Trip to Washington
  72. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show
  73. 2003-03-05 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [ Free Software Chamber of Commerce ] FSCC Evening Meeting
  74. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] School Board Meeting?
  75. 2003-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Identity Management architect/engineer, United States, NJ, Bedminster]
  76. 2003-03-06 Bill Putney <bputney-at-effective-tech.com> Re: [hangout] Bin laden
  77. 2003-03-06 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Bin laden
  78. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bin laden
  79. 2003-03-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Radio Show
  80. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Radio Show
  81. 2003-03-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Radio Show
  82. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Radio Show
  83. 2003-03-06 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Radio Show
  84. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Rules Commitee Status
  85. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Rules Commitee Status
  86. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Desktop Linux
  87. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Egov - Oppurtunity
  88. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Looks like an NYLXS Social Event
  89. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft Anti-competitive Practices: Egov-OS
  90. 2003-03-06 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] OS in Government article
  91. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] rhn-admin-at-rhn.redhat.com: RHN Errata Alert: Updated OpenSSL packages fix timing attack
  92. 2003-03-06 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Rules Commitee Status
  93. 2003-03-06 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] thing are starting to move get on the train
  94. 2003-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Mark_Andrews-at-isc.org: Internet Software Consortium Security Advisory: 5 March 2003]
  95. 2003-03-07 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Journal
  96. 2003-03-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Rules Commitee Status
  97. 2003-03-07 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Subject: [hangout] NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  98. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Brooklyn Installfest/Radio Show
  99. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Brooklyn Installfest/Radio Show
  100. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Journal
  101. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYU Event - "Wireless Communications and the Future of Cities"
  102. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  103. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  104. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  105. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Brooklyn Installfest/Radio Show
  106. 2003-03-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: NYSIA HotWire, Week of March 10, 2003]
  107. 2003-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [info-at-j2jnetwork.com: Invitation to attend a J2J Network Focus Group on the establishment of a Career Center]
  108. 2003-03-08 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> one more thing Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  109. 2003-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: one more thing Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  110. 2003-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: one more thing Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  111. 2003-03-08 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: one more thing Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  112. 2003-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: one more thing Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  113. 2003-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fishing
  114. 2003-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Flash Media Player Security Warning
  115. 2003-03-08 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  116. 2003-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] RIAA Website
  117. 2003-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Software Roots - Collaberation
  118. 2003-03-09 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Fishing
  119. 2003-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fishing
  120. 2003-03-09 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] Fishing
  121. 2003-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Nominations
  122. 2003-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] The Balance Act
  123. 2003-03-09 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] The Mayor
  124. 2003-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS.com Registration
  125. 2003-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show Tonight
  126. 2003-03-09 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] The Balance Act
  127. 2003-03-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The Mayor
  128. 2003-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] While you were asleep, the internet was outlawed by the FCC
  129. 2003-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] While you were asleep, the internet was outlawed by the FCC
  130. 2003-03-10 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] NYLXS.com Registration
  131. 2003-03-10 From: "William Brent" <wbrent-at-finepoint.com> RE: [hangout] The Mayor
  132. 2003-03-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Everything in the Universe might not be what it seems
  133. 2003-03-10 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Grant Tutorials
  134. 2003-03-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show - Now archived
  135. 2003-03-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show - Now archived
  136. 2003-03-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: we need to start this now!
  137. 2003-03-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Unix 2 Start rescheduled for NEXT Week
  138. 2003-03-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washignton DC trip - Egov-OS
  139. 2003-03-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washignton DC trip - Egov-OS
  140. 2003-03-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washignton DC trip - Egov-OS
  141. 2003-03-10 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] we need to start this now!
  142. 2003-03-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: one more thing Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS -Rules Commitee
  143. 2003-03-11 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] NYSDL Training Disapproval
  144. 2003-03-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYSDL Training Disapproval
  145. 2003-03-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  146. 2003-03-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  147. 2003-03-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I'm heading out to the Killarny Rose - See you later
  148. 2003-03-11 Bruce Perens <bruce-at-perens.com> Subject: [hangout] MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  149. 2003-03-11 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] NYSDL Training Disapproval
  150. 2003-03-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  151. 2003-03-11 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  152. 2003-03-11 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  153. 2003-03-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  154. 2003-03-11 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  155. 2003-03-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  156. 2003-03-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  157. 2003-03-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  158. 2003-03-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The new TIVO from AOL/Time-Warner (sniff can you smell DRM)
  159. 2003-03-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brett and Jay - Settlement Tomorrow
  160. 2003-03-12 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] freedom to tinker
  161. 2003-03-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Headline - Microsoft 2.0: Meet the gentler software giant
  162. 2003-03-12 Bruce Perens <bruce-at-perens.com> Subject: [hangout] MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum; Response to Dave Williams
  163. 2003-03-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Meeting
  164. 2003-03-12 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] OSS and Inovation
  165. 2003-03-12 Bruce Perens <bruce-at-perens.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  166. 2003-03-12 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  167. 2003-03-12 Dave Williams <djw23-at-drexel.edu> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  168. 2003-03-12 Dave Williams <djw23-at-drexel.edu> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum; Response to Dave Williams
  169. 2003-03-12 Dave Williams <djw23-at-drexel.edu> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender]
  170. 2003-03-12 Dave Williams <djw23-at-drexel.edu> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender]
  171. 2003-03-13 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] blog software?
  172. 2003-03-13 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Program reminder
  173. 2003-03-13 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] we need to start this now!
  174. 2003-03-13 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] we need to start this now!
  175. 2003-03-13 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] blog software?
  176. 2003-03-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brett Wynkoop threatens to sue NYLXS for use of our own organizations
  177. 2003-03-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brett Wynkoop threatens to sue NYLXS for use of our own organizations
  178. 2003-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Customes
  179. 2003-03-13 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] I believe in the power of noise
  180. 2003-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Mission
  181. 2003-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS/NY Fair Use Defense Fund
  182. 2003-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: I want peace because...
  183. 2003-03-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: plot thickens
  184. 2003-03-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Urgent Help needed to fend off Cybersquaters
  185. 2003-03-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washington DC
  186. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] blog software?
  187. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  188. 2003-03-14 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  189. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  190. 2003-03-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  191. 2003-03-14 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Washington Status
  192. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lawsuit from Jay
  193. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  194. 2003-03-14 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  195. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  196. 2003-03-14 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  197. 2003-03-14 Bruce Perens <bruce-at-perens.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  198. 2003-03-14 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  199. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washington Status
  200. 2003-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] We need someone with a Credit Card and a License
  201. 2003-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Can anyone assist/installfest/dual booting linux ipaq3670 on IBM micro-drive?
  202. 2003-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What's the procedure for mail forwarding from nylxs?
  203. 2003-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Who's in charge of the business improvement thing? Please contact me.
  204. 2003-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Who's in charge of the next business demo? Please contact me.
  205. 2003-03-15 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Can anyone assist/installfest/dual booting linux ipaq3670 on IBM micro-drive?
  206. 2003-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Macro - call me please
  207. 2003-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New collage on the front page
  208. 2003-03-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  209. 2003-03-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  210. 2003-03-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  211. 2003-03-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: MS cancels "Shiftpoint" forum
  212. 2003-03-15 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] What's the procedure for mail forwarding from nylxs?
  213. 2003-03-15 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Who's in charge of the business improvement thing? Please contact me.
  214. 2003-03-15 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Who's in charge of the next business demo? Please contact me.
  215. 2003-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: What distros will be available at installfest?
  216. 2003-03-16 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: What distros will be available at installfest?
  217. 2003-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: What distros will be available at installfest?
  218. 2003-03-16 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] Re: What distros will be available at installfest?
  219. 2003-03-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Classes Beginning this week from the FSI
  220. 2003-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use Planning meeting Tomorrow
  221. 2003-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Election General Membership Meeting
  222. 2003-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Radio Show - Tomorrow at 8PM
  223. 2003-03-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show On The Air Now http://www.nylxs.com/radio/
  224. 2003-03-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: What distros will be available at installfest?
  225. 2003-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] TCP/IP Study Group starting Next Sunday
  226. 2003-03-16 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] What distros will be available at installfest?
  227. 2003-03-17 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfeast and Distro CD
  228. 2003-03-17 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] Need a local source for Cat 5 wire and wall jacks
  229. 2003-03-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Shaed Source Egovos
  230. 2003-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] eGovOS protest
  231. 2003-03-18 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Infomation on the NY Fair use action
  232. 2003-03-18 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Re: [hangout] Press
  233. 2003-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Static IP Internet Service (DSL/Cable)
  234. 2003-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Classes this week
  235. 2003-03-18 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] eGovOS protest
  236. 2003-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Infomation on the NY Fair use action
  237. 2003-03-18 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] PCWorld
  238. 2003-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Press
  239. 2003-03-18 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Installfeast and Distro CD
  240. 2003-03-18 From: "Derrick Lewis" <lewisdj-at-bc.edu> Subject: [hangout] Static IP Internet Service (DSL/Cable)
  241. 2003-03-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Embrace and...
  242. 2003-03-19 From: "Richard M. Stallman - Autoreply Message" <rms-autoreply-control-at-gnu.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Embrace and...
  243. 2003-03-19 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Embrace and...
  244. 2003-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Embrace and...
  245. 2003-03-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] "ASP license", egovos fiasco
  246. 2003-03-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] "ASP license", egovos fiasco
  247. 2003-03-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] "ASP license", egovos fiasco
  248. 2003-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Embrace and...
  249. 2003-03-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NY fair Use Pics
  250. 2003-03-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NY fair Use Pics
  251. 2003-03-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] "ASP license"
  252. 2003-03-19 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) WindowsRefund.net: Petition targets Toshiba
  253. 2003-03-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CLASS CANCELLED TONITE - NO PERL CLASS
  254. 2003-03-19 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] donations of corporate intellectual property to nonprofit organizations
  255. 2003-03-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Elections
  256. 2003-03-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Embrace and...
  257. 2003-03-20 Jennifer Dozar <jennifer-at-orange.zorcat.com> Re: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  258. 2003-03-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lock 'em Up
  259. 2003-03-20 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) Hearing scheduled for HB 2892 (Oregon)
  260. 2003-03-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Evolution Vurnabilites - Can't be Windows like enoug :-|
  261. 2003-03-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  262. 2003-03-20 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Lock 'em Up
  263. 2003-03-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Membership List for election.
  264. 2003-03-20 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Time to Chime
  265. 2003-03-21 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] DMCA Comments
  266. 2003-03-21 Jacek Blizinski <azidog-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Evolution Vurnabilites - Can't be Windows like enoug
  267. 2003-03-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Evolution Vurnabilites - Can't be Windows like enoug :-|
  268. 2003-03-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  269. 2003-03-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  270. 2003-03-21 Bruce Perens <bruce-at-perens.com> Re: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  271. 2003-03-21 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  272. 2003-03-21 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  273. 2003-03-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA Comments
  274. 2003-03-21 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA goes under public scrutiny again
  275. 2003-03-21 jonathan jacobs <gnunewyork-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] lock 'em up
  276. 2003-03-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION
  277. 2003-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION
  278. 2003-03-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION
  279. 2003-03-22 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Re: [hangout] Lindows CEO attacks Intel's Centrino Linux lockout
  280. 2003-03-22 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Nominations
  281. 2003-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Nominations
  282. 2003-03-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Article in text
  283. 2003-03-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION
  284. 2003-03-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MS EULA VRS GPL
  285. 2003-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Preliminary draft of article for NY Fair Use - egovos
  286. 2003-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Preliminary draft of article for NY Fair Use - egovos - POSTSCRIPT
  287. 2003-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION
  288. 2003-03-23 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION
  289. 2003-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNU-Darwin (IE MAC) clueless about more than one thing
  290. 2003-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Job Possibility
  291. 2003-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Journals - Where are they?
  292. 2003-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More egov-os stupidity
  293. 2003-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] WWWACS Event
  294. 2003-03-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Newsforge article
  295. 2003-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: fscc
  296. 2003-03-24 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: fscc
  297. 2003-03-24 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] fscc
  298. 2003-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MS Teaches how to right secure code
  299. 2003-03-24 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Newsforge article
  300. 2003-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: fscc
  301. 2003-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Voting Tonight!
  302. 2003-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [reply-a46-1808-2f6b114cd7-at-nl.internet.com: Your Linux Today Security Letter for March 24, 2003]
  303. 2003-03-24 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: 48 hours of efforts plus a response to Mr Wynkoop]
  304. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Red Hat Linux 9 and your certification
  305. 2003-03-25 Kevin Milani <kevin-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] Red Hat Linux 9 and your certification
  306. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Today
  307. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Today
  308. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Scene Calender for Today]
  309. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Re: Monday 18:52 24 March 2003 settlement
  310. 2003-03-25 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Red Hat Linux 9 and your certification
  311. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] RMS's comments on our article :):wq
  312. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [bingalls-at-fit-zones.com: Schools Project]
  313. 2003-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-at-ezrecruit.net: {1407}Training Systems Support Engineer opening in USA-New Jersey-Paramus]
  314. 2003-03-26 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] California Energy Market Scandel
  315. 2003-03-26 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] California Energy Market Scandel
  316. 2003-03-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] For the education committie
  317. 2003-03-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use Beginning Date
  318. 2003-03-26 bluecitabria <bluecitabria-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Red Hat Linux 9 and your certification
  319. 2003-03-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] California Energy Market Scandel
  320. 2003-03-26 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] change in policy
  321. 2003-03-26 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] For the education committie
  322. 2003-03-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use Beginning Date
  323. 2003-03-27 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  324. 2003-03-27 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  325. 2003-03-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  326. 2003-03-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Bordeux France
  327. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Disagree with Jay, and he tries to steal your organization
  328. 2003-03-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Earliest memntion of NY Fair Use
  329. 2003-03-27 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] for grant writers
  330. 2003-03-27 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] for the grant writers
  331. 2003-03-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: conference in northern france [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  332. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jays pushing me out of my own organization - because they THINK they can
  333. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] jays sectet letter (with the rest of the conversation)
  334. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use Meeting
  335. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use Meeting
  336. 2003-03-27 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Radio Show this Sunday, request for topics/co-host
  337. 2003-03-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Radio Show: Looking for a Guest Host
  338. 2003-03-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Oh No - the kiss of death ...
  339. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The beginning of the Jay attempt to steal NY Fair Use
  340. 2003-03-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  341. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Who was paying of NY Fair Use? What? Not NYLXS?
  342. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: Department of Commerce meeting on Fair Use and Consumer Rights]
  343. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: Next Steps?]
  344. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [seth.johnson-at-realmeasures.dyndns.org: Re: Department of Commerce Report]
  345. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [seth.johnson-at-realmeasures.dyndns.org: Re: Next Steps?]
  346. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [fairuse] Re: [nylug-talk] Fwd: [hangout] We are the stakholders in TEXT[ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]]
  347. 2003-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: FCC Broadcast Flag Meeting Tomorrow]
  348. 2003-03-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Philip Bond Followup
  349. 2003-03-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Philip Bond Followup
  350. 2003-03-28 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Philip Bond Followup
  351. 2003-03-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Slackware 9.0 is out!
  352. 2003-03-28 akbar <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  353. 2003-03-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  354. 2003-03-28 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  355. 2003-03-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Philip Bond Followup
  356. 2003-03-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Slackware 9.0 is out!
  357. 2003-03-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Carteblancher-at-aol.com: [fairuse] Happy Birthday NY Fair Use]
  358. 2003-03-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION
  359. 2003-03-29 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS
  360. 2003-03-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Press
  361. 2003-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] TCP/IP Study Group
  362. 2003-03-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Article Comments
  363. 2003-03-30 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Firewalls set to become illegal in many American states DMCA
  364. 2003-03-30 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft RPC hole could lead to DoS attacks Can we fix this with shared source?
  365. 2003-03-30 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Slashdot | Microsoft Refuses To Fix NT 4.0 Exploit
  366. 2003-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [nylxs-announce] Linux Scene Calender for Today]
  367. 2003-03-31 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Meeting Tonight??
  368. 2003-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Meeting Tonight??
  369. 2003-03-31 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS (fwd)
  370. 2003-03-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us: NYLXS in LinuxFormat MAG]
  371. 2003-03-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Grants
  372. 2003-03-31 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Meeting Tonight??
  373. 2003-03-31 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Election Results
  374. 2003-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: NYLXS Election Results
  375. 2003-03-31 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] [MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us: NYLXS in LinuxFormat MAG]
  376. 2003-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [nylxs-announce] Linux Scene Calender for Today]

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