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DATE | 2003-03-18 |
FROM | rc
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SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Infomation on the NY Fair use action
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Tue Mar 18 23:14:28 2003 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h2J4ESN1004678 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:14:28 -0500 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h2J4ESc5004677 for hangout-desteny; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:14:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.222]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h2J4ERN1004664; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:14:28 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (66-108-58-242.nyc.rr.com [66.108.58.242]) by nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (8.12.1/Road Runner SMTP Server 1.0) with ESMTP id h2J4Gmr0009732; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:16:48 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: rc To: Ruben Safir , fairuse-at-nylxs.com, hangout-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [hangout] Infomation on the NY Fair use action Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:18:31 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <20030319010735.GA2904-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> In-Reply-To: <20030319010735.GA2904-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200303182318.31313.nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mrbrklyn.com id h2J4ESN1004665 Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rc List: New Yorkers Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribename-at-domian.com to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Keywords: X-UID: 9548 Status: RO Content-Length: 2353 Lines: 58
i engaged in conversation with 2 people
1 was a speaker, from where i don't know, others told me HP but I could not confirm that. He was quite aggitated with me and demanded I explain why I was there. I was taken back by his glare and tone. I simply and calmly told him we disagreeed with the inclusion of MS in the event. He, again quite angrily, told me that he has customers who are "only a few steps down the road and don't need religion in it". I asked which "road" he meant and he told me the "Open Source" road. I immediately retorted that this had Nothing to do with religion or zealotry and was all about misleading promotion of the event. I explained that we had no issue "debating" MS in a "debate" but an event that was billed as "advocacy" should be just that: a clear consise promotional event Advocating OSS. Including MS was a dilution of that message and confusing for his customers. Again, nothing to do with religion and zealotry. All he could do was give me an aggressive, nasty glare which, being a professional, prompted me to just excuse myself and continue handing out flyers.
The other gentleman was from SAIC. When he saw the jist of the flyer he lit up! He said that when he saw MS on the bill he could not fathom why they would be there and thought something was very fishy about it. He congratulated me on a great effort with the costumes and voicing the hipocracy of including them in the event. From there our conversations veered off the main subject.
Congrats and good job once again to all of us who worked so hard to get there and make a stand!
~Ray
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 08:07 pm, Ruben Safir wrote: > I need to write an article about our trip. But this was different > from some of the other actions we've taken, and I'm not certain for > who spoke to whom or everything that was said. > > Can everyone send me a summary of your activities at the protest and > who you spoke to. Thanks > > Ruben
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